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      06-11-2014, 09:34 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by Soorena
I'm surprised how many people dislike the current torque converter. That transmission is the best automatic transmission i've ever tried, even better than the 8HP. Very intelligent, no lag, no jerkyness. Definitely a huge plus for the M SUV IMHO.
Had the chance to spend some time in a X5M last year and IMO the AT in the old X5M and X6M adds a nice bit of comfort to those M SUVs and let you have fun when you want to. The smoothness of the ride and shifting is great, in fact the overall ride quality is better than the regular X5 50i I tried (which did not have AD).

While the M SUVs are great performers, I think the target customers are less performance minded than those who buy M3/M4/M5/M6, and a smooth yet fun to drive AT make more sense in such vehicles....I know the DCT in the newer M5/M6 are very good, but I have yet to see any DCT type transmission as smooth as a good traditional AT.

Maybe it makes sense financially for BMW to put a DCT in the new X6M since it will very likely share the same S63Tu engine, and they can save money on developmental cost of fitting an AT into the car. But if I have the choice between AT and DCT in a M SUV, I'd go with AT.
The DCT in D mode is just a smooth as the 8at which is currently being used. The addition of the DCT will make the X5/6M that much more engaging/flexable to drive. When you want to lumber and don't want to shift, put it in D mode, when you want to drive it with some spirit, S it is.

I drove a x5 with paddle shifters as a loaner and I drove with the paddles the entire time, mostly from my paddle habit from my M3. Yes it was nicer than my 550 MSport with paddles but I still felt it was different and not as crisp as a DCT.

My wife only drives my M3 in 2 different D modes. D2 around town and I have the M button set for D4. I asked her how she liked it compared to her 8at and she thought it was indistinguishable to her. The only time she new the difference was when she was in D4 and needed to hustle it a bit and felt the car was always in go mode instead of go... Shift... Shift and go again.
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12 X5 50i Sport -- 11 M3 DCT -- 2011 X5 50i(Lemon) -- 2008 550 Msport -- 2007 x5 4.8 sport -- 2004 545 sport -- 2002 x5 4.4 sport -- 2001 540i Msport 2000 SL500 -- 1997 SL500
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