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The oil is only ~$6.50/L for 9L (that's the BMW 5W30 from the dealer), that's ~$58. Filter is on Amazon for only $18. That's $76 total. So $85 for a bit of overhead like maybe you need to buy a drain pan and ramp (for the life of this car and all your cars), but nothing close to $130. Spark plugs are like $10/each. That's $80 max for parts, just mostly labor you can do yourself. These figures are for the N63B44 motor, less if you have the N55B30.
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To date, I have yet to find a single person show me in an ex-post analysis that extended maintenance would have paid off in ANY BMW.
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I bought raceramps ($220) to change my oil in the M3. Which is pricy. M3 oil change kits are about $145 for parts alone. Dealers generally charge $230-$250 for a change. Now if you're like me and have a 2nd BMW, cost savings of DIY oil changes for 2nd car is just gravy on top. These days, I can do an oil change on either the X5 or M3 in 30 minutes with most of the time spent waiting for the oil to drain, including taking a Blackstone oil sample. I also have the cleanup down to a science where it's only 10 minutes. My only equipment investments for oil changes are: 1. raceramps $220 2. drainpan $10 3. disposable gloves $10 for like million of them 4. splatter pan $10 5. 2x funnels $10 6. extra gallon jugs free (from past oil changes and reusing old windshield wiper fluid bottles)
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got some quotes for compare. i drive 25-30k miles/year so the length doesnt matter to me.
extended maintenance - +75kmiles (good until 2021 or 125k miles): $3500 extended warranty: +50k (good until 100k miles or 2022) gold package: $3500 - $3600 depending on dealer. platinum: $4000 so, put your $4000 into a 5 year bond, make $900. take a gamble that the car will be ok. more than likely, we will have to spend ~$2000 for repairs of misc nonsense, or if like my m3, a $900 sensor. as explained above, oil changes are under $100, and you can even increase intervals to 5k (which i will on my 35d) and save money. a brake job will take around 2 hours. all in all, as long as nothing big pops up, i hope to stay in the black |
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so in your case, there's still no chance your extended maintenance might breakeven. Assuming your current maintenance runs out in 2019 (4-years from 2015), you have 2 years to use $3500 worth of initial maintenance costs. Break down as follows assuming the alternative cost of OEM parts and indie labor: Brake job: $2000 (more likely going to be $1200) 3x oil changes: $300 10 gallons of Walmart DEF: $50 diesel fuel filter: $500 (more likely $200, it's a $40 filter, labor would be around $100) Air filter x 3: $100 Sum = $2950 (more likely $1850) BTW, these are generous labor and parts estimates for the biggest ticket item, the brake job. I was able to do an indie front brake swap with OE pads/rotors/wear indicators for $600 all in. ($200 labor, $400 parts) There's not enough cabin air filters and wipers you can add to servicing in 2 years to make $1850 turn into $3500. Maybe during your dealer visits, you can swipe some magazines and M3 brochures, drink 10 cups of coffee, and take the entire basket of pastries, and flush the toilets 10 times to compensate... Only way I can see you coming out ahead is you got an early brake job during your 4/50k period, and your upcoming brake job just falls during the early months of your extended maintenance plan. And then you squeeze in one more brake job towards the end of 2021 when you've driven 50k miles
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the only time based maintenance is a brake fluid change, assuming you dont get to the interval, both of which are terribly exaggerated imo. everything else is interval based. so, whether my mileage runs out this summer, or time in 2 years, i dont see how anyone can break even. these cars wont use brakes in 50k. on my m3, i went through 3 replacements, was due for a 4th, and they rejected me. its not set up for you to win.. |
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On the topic of maintenance and all that good stuff, what is the interval for changing the transmission fluid?
On my RDX they claimed the fluid would last forever and ever, but I changed the fluid every 30k miles. |
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Even if I didn't to do it in the dead of winter, any shop indy shop that charges $20 for an oil change will likely change the oil for you for that $20 especially when you're providing your own oil and filter, so still less than the dealer. And I'm commenting very simply because there will be people out there who may wish to DIY but think okay the dealer price isn't that bad, but now they will see the maintenance plan isn't that much of a value. It does however offer peace of mind if that's what some people are after. Anyways happy driving
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My friend who owns three Ferraris definitely minds paying $150 for service when he can get it done for $80 at the indy shop.
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It can be changed, but it's a messy endeavor, at least on the E70 it was. It's not exactly a drain then plug situation as I don't think a drain plug exists, and requires your dropping the pan and then installing a new gasket IIRC. when confronted with this, most people would either opt to not change it, or pay an indie to change it.
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But I doubt he's going indy on a Ferrari maintenance. Isn't the whole preowned value of a Ferrari built into full dealer service records and all that jazz?
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I think he's talking about a Ferrari owner saving money on servicing his BMW or alternative car.
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fast forward to minute 1:00 for joke
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