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11-30-2013, 07:32 PM | #24 |
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Nice. I just placed an order today with the expected delivery date of Dec 27. It was an allocation that the dealer already had, and he says I can still change up my options.
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I thought the manufacturing of Diesel doesn't even start till Jan/Feb?! |
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11-30-2013, 07:50 PM | #27 | |
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The dealer showed me they have a car coming, maybe that's why my date is so early. But I'm totally ok if it comes in Jan/Feb. |
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11-30-2013, 08:37 PM | #28 |
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I'm working directly with the general manager of the dealership I will order my 35d through. I have purchased cars from him in the past and he has always been above board. As of now, I am told, there are no allocations for the 35d in the US. The dealer might take your deposit and order but I would be suspicious if they actually have an allocation.
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12-01-2013, 12:21 AM | #29 |
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it could be possible that tdot-Ducati, because he is ordering a 35d for Canada, will actually be able to get one on the original schedule of December while those of us who want the 35d in the US must wait while the diesel gets emissions clearance here.
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12-01-2013, 07:48 AM | #30 | |
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It's my wife's car but I'm pretty excited!! |
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12-01-2013, 07:43 PM | #31 | |
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if US is lagging the emissions clearance, are you saying that Canada already has that clearance sorted out? |
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12-01-2013, 08:27 PM | #32 |
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Yes. The US rules (driven by those of California) are way more restrictive than those in Europe and most other countries. That's why many makes offer multiple variants of a Diesel engine outside the US but only one or in many cases, as with Land Rover, none in the US. And it's why the diesels that have been allowed in the US pretty much all have had to resort to using that blue urea filtering system.
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12-01-2013, 08:49 PM | #33 |
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What I am hearing is that BMW is feeding the Europe supply pipeline right now with Diesels as 95% of X5s going to Europe are Diesel. The US/ Canada market is the opposite....hence the demand mix. My dealer in Chicago (has huge X5 allocation) told me diesels won't be built for the US market until Feb earliest....however they could be seeding some dealerships with demos.
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I could be totally wrong, but I now feel even more strongly than before that the delay with the diesel in the US is due to issues getting it to meet the CARB and EPA emissions standards.
If you search the EPA's data base, you find that BMW asked for approval on the emissions of the gasoline powered 2014 X5 35i back in February of 2013 and received approval from the EPA on 3/7/13. However, the EPA's web site is not yet showing any indication that BMW has even submitted the 2014 X5's diesel for federal approval (even if the revisions are modest, they still need to be CARB and EPA approved). Moreover, the EPA's approval for the 2013 version of the X5 diesel (which was applied for on 8/27/12 and approved on 11/8/12 ) expires on 12/31/13. |
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Government approvals on diesel
Good sleuthing on the government websites. It would be in BMW's interest to recognize that these public websites are available to everyone and there is no point in them keeping dealer's and the dealer's customers in the dark about decisions they have made about when to seek approval to sell in the USA. At least once they submit to EPA and California they can blame them if the process takes too long.
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This is my original build and my CA is just going to add on $20 per month on my lease payment. Everything is staying the same except I'm changing to the diesel.
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with the incredible torque that you get from 35d, 35i doesn't really cut it for me...plus the fact that you are spending much more on fuel...(don't forget, you need to compare Premium 91 gasoline vs. diesel and not the regular price of gasoline) |
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