Tick when turning the wheel?

msdss · 10-23-2021, 02:05 PM

My X6M has developed a ticking sound when I turn the wheel all the way to the right. I noticed it when doing a u-turn today. It only happens when the wheel is turned all the way to the right. Less than full turn, or turning left doesn't make the sound. It sounds like a metal tick, and a slight rattly tamborine kind of sound...

Does anyone have any idea what that might be, and could possibly point me in the right direction on how to figure it out. What to look for... etc..

This is going to have to be a DIY repair.

silentm · 10-24-2021, 03:07 PM

I have the same sound, but don't know what it is. Car has never seen bad weather, don't think that matters though with this sound.

Blue By You · 10-24-2021, 03:38 PM

This is a known issue, wheel bearing or something, if you look it up you'll find it.

cncmastr · 10-24-2021, 04:40 PM

Common issue, the hub carrier slides slightly if I recall.

silentm · 10-24-2021, 06:09 PM

What does need to be replaced?

bmwx5er · 10-24-2021, 07:19 PM

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...35032-9999.pdf

Well-known annoyance

nishfish87 · 10-24-2021, 08:19 PM

I had the TSB above done and it completely got rid of my issues.

jab23 · 10-25-2021, 06:03 AM

Mine just started yesterday, or at least that's when I noticed it. My warranty expires Wednesday. Let's see if I can squeeze this in!

msdss · 10-27-2021, 12:33 AM

well hell. this seems super simple. thanks for the info/links!

so this is resolved by putting a washer in between the hub and the rotor? that seems too good to be true. hehe

is there any way to tell if this is the problem before I go buying parts?

DgjoX6M2016 · 10-27-2021, 07:06 AM

I had the fix last year and it still seems sporadic. Hub is fine with no play. Only comes out under lateral load. It seems to goes away when I put winter wheels on. It really sounds out at autocross events. Only LF clicks.

Chilled · 12-29-2021, 06:00 PM

nishfish87 What did they do for you? As per the TSB did they just add the lube or did they do the washer thing on the bearing?

jab23 · 12-29-2021, 08:02 PM

FWIW, my dealer ended up replacing both of my front axles. Resolved my ticking noise and got it in under my soon expiring warranty.

kkowalsk · 12-29-2021, 08:34 PM

Going through my service records mine had this same issue described by the prior owner. Dealer replaced both front axle shafts and front struts.

Chilled · 12-29-2021, 09:30 PM

Gone for good, or did it come back?

Here is the issue I'm having, was yours the same?

Front Driver View.
https://ulozto.net/file/wNO1oLjq6K9S...3-231336-1-mp4

Side on View, (This one i was nearly full lock both directions.)
https://ulozto.net/file/4bT3evyjq62a...3-231739-1-mp4

bmwx5er · 12-29-2021, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jab23

FWIW, my dealer ended up replacing both of my front axles. Resolved my ticking noise and got it in under my soon expiring warranty.

Front axles?? This is the first account that I've read of that repair for the ticking noise. Do you mind posting your repair order? I'd be curious to see if there's new info/TSB for this issue.

8202632 · 12-29-2021, 10:00 PM

Do people with spacers exhibit the same issues?

Chilled · 12-29-2021, 10:34 PM

This was the TSB i was talking about the lube, https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...48221-9999.pdf

Is there a way to see the precedence of TSBs for BMW?

jab23 · 12-30-2021, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwx5er

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab23

FWIW, my dealer ended up replacing both of my front axles. Resolved my ticking noise and got it in under my soon expiring warranty.

Front axles?? This is the first account that I've read of that repair for the ticking noise. Do you mind posting your repair order? I'd be curious to see if there's new info/TSB for this issue.

Sure. I don't see any TSB info on it. Also forgot they used remanufactured shafts. That seems weird, but it was covered under warranty, so I'll take it.

bmwx5er · 12-30-2021, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jab23

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Originally Posted by bmwx5er

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab23

FWIW, my dealer ended up replacing both of my front axles. Resolved my ticking noise and got it in under my soon expiring warranty.

Front axles?? This is the first account that I've read of that repair for the ticking noise. Do you mind posting your repair order? I'd be curious to see if there's new info/TSB for this issue.

Sure. I don't see any TSB info on it. Also forgot they used remanufactured shafts. That seems weird, but it was covered under warranty, so I'll take it.

Thanks! Did they already perform the TSB on yours? If not, it's surprising they didn't attempt that first.. unless they diagnosed this to be an entirely different issue altogether.

jab23 · 12-30-2021, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwx5er

Thanks! Did they already perform the TSB on yours? If not, it's surprising they didn't attempt that first.. unless they diagnosed this to be an entirely different issue altogether.

The spacer TSB was never mentioned. Not sure if it was done prior to my ownership. I just described my issue and this was their fix. Will be interesting to see if the clicking comes back if the spacer is the true fix.

Chilled · 01-16-2022, 08:48 PM

So Just looking at this TSB (https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...48221-9999.pdf) and lubing up the drive flange.

just going through the instructions for this, and am wondering if I am reading this correctly.

The TSB says follow instruction set

31 51 010(Replacing radial shaft seal for input flange of front axle differential) for the lube portion of the input flag. Now this guide says to do 26 20 000, prior to commencing it.
26 20 000(Removing and installing front propeller shaft), based on the photos. This is the drive shaft between the Transfer Case the the front diff.

Is this correct, is that the shaft we remove and flange we lube up? The one that runs between the TC and the front Diff.

Also the TSB says to use this grease (83 23 0 417 754 - Castrol Optitemp HAT LF1). Has anyone been able to find it, outside of BMW?

nishfish87 · 01-16-2022, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilled

So Just looking at this TSB (https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...48221-9999.pdf) and lubing up the drive flange.

just going through the instructions for this, and am wondering if I am reading this correctly.

The TSB says follow instruction set

31 51 010(Replacing radial shaft seal for input flange of front axle differential) for the lube portion of the input flag. Now this guide says to do 26 20 000, prior to commencing it.
26 20 000(Removing and installing front propeller shaft), based on the photos. This is the drive shaft between the Transfer Case the the front diff.

Is this correct, is that the shaft we remove and flange we lube up? The one that runs between the TC and the front Diff.

Also the TSB says to use this grease (83 23 0 417 754 - Castrol Optitemp HAT LF1). Has anyone been able to find it, outside of BMW?

Looks like the URL is cut off, can you post again? I’m having another issue that occurred after my transfer case was replaced under warranty. It sounds like a binding noise when moving at slow speeds, almost full lock, forward or reverse.

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bmwx5er Major 360 Rep 1,340 Posts Drives: 2017 X5m Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Seattle iTrader: (8)	https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...35032-9999.pdf Well-known annoyance
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jab23 First Lieutenant 224 Rep 375 Posts Drives: 2017 X5M Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: MA iTrader: (1)	Mine just started yesterday, or at least that's when I noticed it. My warranty expires Wednesday. Let's see if I can squeeze this in!
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DgjoX6M2016 F86, G05, E91 455 Rep 778 Posts Drives: F86 X6M Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	I had the fix last year and it still seems sporadic. Hub is fine with no play. Only comes out under lateral load. It seems to goes away when I put winter wheels on. It really sounds out at autocross events. Only LF clicks.
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kkowalsk Private 32 Rep 90 Posts Drives: E92 328i - Sport Manual Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Perrysburg, Ohio iTrader: (0)	Going through my service records mine had this same issue described by the prior owner. Dealer replaced both front axle shafts and front struts.
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Chilled Major 364 Rep 1,019 Posts Drives: F85 X5M Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Tiny Island, Middle of Nowhere iTrader: (0)	This was the TSB i was talking about the lube, https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...48221-9999.pdf Is there a way to see the precedence of TSBs for BMW?
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Chilled Major 364 Rep 1,019 Posts Drives: F85 X5M Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Tiny Island, Middle of Nowhere iTrader: (0)	So Just looking at this TSB (https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...48221-9999.pdf) and lubing up the drive flange. just going through the instructions for this, and am wondering if I am reading this correctly. The TSB says follow instruction set 31 51 010(Replacing radial shaft seal for input flange of front axle differential) for the lube portion of the input flag. Now this guide says to do 26 20 000, prior to commencing it. 26 20 000(Removing and installing front propeller shaft), based on the photos. This is the drive shaft between the Transfer Case the the front diff. Is this correct, is that the shaft we remove and flange we lube up? The one that runs between the TC and the front Diff. Also the TSB says to use this grease (83 23 0 417 754 - Castrol Optitemp HAT LF1). Has anyone been able to find it, outside of BMW? Attached Images Last edited by Chilled; 01-16-2022 at 09:43 PM..
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