2015 Cayenne Turbo Vs 2015 X5M

fyim · 01-23-2015, 02:47 PM

Why is this an available thread? How can somebody compare a car with another one which hasn't yet been released. It's like saying "my boy is better than your unborn boy"

NoPII · 01-23-2015, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rcpx6m

Why is this an available thread? How can somebody compare a car with another one which hasn't yet been released. It's like saying "my boy is better than your unborn boy"

Ah, but isn't every parent's child better (in their eyes) than someone else's?

I think that's actually a very eloquent summary of why this thread exists, too

fatmatt0116 · 01-23-2015, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gorun

Pre-facelift cayenne turbo was quite a bit faster than e70 x5m, the turbo s even more so...

It's not the horsepower that makes the difference. That is cheap and easy to come by on any twin turbo V8. It's the handling. The thing corners better than my m coupe did. Either X5M or Turbo S can be tweaked to over 700 hp.

PDCC, PTV, and pneumatic suspension combine to produce incomparable handling.

In an ideal world I would have both cars I suppose, but I'd make my wife drive the M.

swifty · 01-28-2015, 10:20 PM

Is either the 2015 Turbo S or the X5m available with 3rd row seats?

AwesomeM3 · 01-29-2015, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by swifty

Is either the 2015 Turbo S or the X5m available with 3rd row seats?

No third row for the X5M, not sure about the Cayenne.

mike@tpc · 01-29-2015, 10:09 AM

no 3rd row on cayenne

ozboygb · 01-29-2015, 05:06 PM

I agree that it comes down to a matter of preference. The upmarket audio in both is comparable (I have both the B&O (M6 GC) and the Burmeister (911S cab)) ..exceptional for us audiophiles.

As the X5M is for my wife, the decision in the end came down to her subjective views and some features the BMW has that Porsche doesn't (they are indeed both superb cars). In the HUD and superior SatNav (BMW has surface street traffic) for LA won the day for her.

We luckily have access to a number of performance cars and the X5M fills our SUV needs the best

paicapo · 01-29-2015, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ozboygb

I agree that it comes down to a matter of preference. The upmarket audio in both is comparable (I have both the B&O (M6 GC) and the Burmeister (911S cab)) ..exceptional for us audiophiles.

As the X5M is for my wife, the decision in the end came down to her subjective views and some features the BMW has that Porsche doesn't (they are indeed both superb cars). In the HUD and superior SatNav (BMW has surface street traffic) for LA won the day for her.

We luckily have access to a number of performance cars and the X5M fills our SUV needs the best

No disrespect or anything, just been wondering about the hole deal about buying 550+ hp m performance car fore the wife, been seeing this kind of statements quite a lot in threads on forums, I can't really wrap my head around it , isn't a 30d enough, near 600 hp can be a handful
for even the most experienced driver... Just thinking

swifty · 01-29-2015, 09:11 PM

Op have you considered the Range Rover Sport Supercharged?

The new one comes with HUD etc. Not sure how all the other techs compare. Pretty sure handling won't against the Turbo but it's the only one of the 3 that has 3rd row seats for kids.

ozboygb · 01-31-2015, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by paicapo

No disrespect or anything, just been wondering about the hole deal about buying 550+ hp m performance car fore the wife, been seeing this kind of statements quite a lot in threads on forums, I can't really wrap my head around it , isn't a 30d enough, near 600 hp can be a handful
for even the most experienced driver... Just thinking

So why should a woman not have access to and enjoy a performance car ? She also drives the Porsche and the M6 and very occasionally the FF

Didn't know that gender had anything to do with driving ability but hey I'm just a simple boy from oz ...

We are empty nesters so no need for anything like a 3rd row - X5 is much more prefered to a RR. We had got down to the X5 and Cayenne

paicapo · 01-31-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ozboygb

So why should a woman not have access to and enjoy a performance car ? She also drives the Porsche and the M6 and very occasionally the FF

Didn't know that gender had anything to do with driving ability but hey I'm just a simple boy from oz ...

We are empty nesters so no need for anything like a 3rd row - X5 is much more prefered to a RR. We had got down to the X5 and Cayenne

Maybe I just haven't met the right woman yet

thanks for the answer.
what's a "FF" ?

fyim · 01-31-2015, 12:28 PM

^ i think he is reffering to a Ferrari FF

paicapo · 01-31-2015, 01:16 PM

Aha, that would be the F12 or F40 (rare car)

fyim · 01-31-2015, 02:24 PM

I think he is reffering to the exact FF model

not F12 or F40

infamousdiz · 01-31-2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ozboygb

So why should a woman not have access to and enjoy a performance car ? She also drives the Porsche and the M6 and very occasionally the FF

Didn't know that gender had anything to do with driving ability but hey I'm just a simple boy from oz ...

We are empty nesters so no need for anything like a 3rd row - X5 is much more prefered to a RR. We had got down to the X5 and Cayenne

What do you do for work?.. You sir are what us young (29) people consider a "baller"

m5sdse63 · 02-01-2015, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ozboygb

Quote:

Originally Posted by paicapo

No disrespect or anything, just been wondering about the hole deal about buying 550+ hp m performance car fore the wife, been seeing this kind of statements quite a lot in threads on forums, I can't really wrap my head around it , isn't a 30d enough, near 600 hp can be a handful
for even the most experienced driver... Just thinking

So why should a woman not have access to and enjoy a performance car ? She also drives the Porsche and the M6 and very occasionally the FF

Didn't know that gender had anything to do with driving ability but hey I'm just a simple boy from oz ...

We are empty nesters so no need for anything like a 3rd row - X5 is much more prefered to a RR. We had got down to the X5 and Cayenne

Agree with this 100%. X5M is also my wife's car.

It's not as much about the 550+hp, as much as the brakes the handling, etc... It's the overall package. And it's a safe car. Just because it's pretty quick and fast, doesn't mean it can't be driven responsibly.
That car corrupts any type of driver in terms of future expectations of what an SUV/SAV is capable of doing.
It's all in good health.

Starbase · 02-01-2015, 04:07 PM

Really struggling with my choice to buy a 2016 Cayenne GTS over the new X5m. With options they both end up being almost identical in terms of price. The BMW wins on speed and electronics and I am sad to not get a HUD or I-drive. I have test drove all the x5 models besides the M and none really held up to the Porsche in terms of driving dynamics. Also think the interior and seats may go to the Porsche. But paying the same price for something almost a second slower to 60 (4.0 vs 4.8) seems a bit silly.

The gas mileage has to be a bit better with the Porsche but that is low on my priority list. Am I crazy to pick the Porsche GTS over the X5m if they are the same price?

ozboygb · 02-02-2015, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by infamousdiz

What do you do for work?.. You sir are what us young (29) people consider a "baller"

Not a "baller" just a little bit older and enjoying the fruits of many years' hard work and what we "petrol heads" all aspire to.

The cars we have are for US to enjoy, not for show ...

If you're on this part of the site you obviously love cars ...

infamousdiz · 02-02-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ozboygb

Not a "baller" just a little bit older and enjoying the fruits of many years' hard work and what we "petrol heads" all aspire to.

The cars we have are for US to enjoy, not for show ...

If you're on this part of the site you obviously love cars ...

Sir, you have stable of cars worth 600k++ in just cars, if that's not balling I don't know what is....... Do you own a boat? Or a 85 foot dingy as you would possibly discribe it. Sorry off topic

but just curious

paicapo · 02-02-2015, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Starbase

Really struggling with my choice to buy a 2016 Cayenne GTS over the new X5m. With options they both end up being almost identical in terms of price. The BMW wins on speed and electronics and I am sad to not get a HUD or I-drive. I have test drove all the x5 models besides the M and none really held up to the Porsche in terms of driving dynamics. Also think the interior and seats may go to the Porsche. But paying the same price for something almost a second slower to 60 (4.0 vs 4.8) seems a bit silly.

The gas mileage has to be a bit better with the Porsche but that is low on my priority list. Am I crazy to pick the Porsche GTS over the X5m if they are the same price?

Why not the turbo instead of the GTS ?

krisnetaji · 02-02-2015, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by paicapo

Why not the turbo instead of the GTS ?

He is probably comparing GTS due to price. Turbo is another $30K+. GTS is about $115K.

Starbase · 02-03-2015, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by paicapo

Why not the turbo instead of the GTS ?

5 thousand dollar difference and yes I know spec wise the Turbo or Turbo S are more in line with the X5M but with options the price difference is crazy.

Been waiting 4 months for the GTS and I assumed the X5M would be out of my price change and it turns out it is a bit cheaper optioned out.

The gadget and spec guy in me wants the the BMW and the visual oriented and driver in me want the Porsche plus the wife calls the X5 a box.

Can't really test drive either one of these cars so its all sort of a roll of the dice for me and I am sure either way I will end up with by far my best car yet.

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fyim First Lieutenant 83 Rep 377 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: East iTrader: (0)	Why is this an available thread? How can somebody compare a car with another one which hasn't yet been released. It's like saying "my boy is better than your unborn boy"
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swifty Colonel 314 Rep 2,448 Posts Drives: F80, Levante & Tesla 100D Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: canada iTrader: (7)	Op have you considered the Range Rover Sport Supercharged? The new one comes with HUD etc. Not sure how all the other techs compare. Pretty sure handling won't against the Turbo but it's the only one of the 3 that has 3rd row seats for kids. __________________ __________________ Current Bimmer: '16 F80 M3, '20 F87 M2c Gone but never forgotten: '13 FO e92 M3, Swifts, volks/advan, Akra Evo, Kics R40 Past: Alpine white e46 323i, Jet Black e39 530, Saph Black e60 530, Space Grey N54 e92 335, Mineral White N55 e92 335
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2015 Cayenne Turbo Vs 2015 X5M

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Starbase Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 2007 Lexus GS 350 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Really struggling with my choice to buy a 2016 Cayenne GTS over the new X5m. With options they both end up being almost identical in terms of price. The BMW wins on speed and electronics and I am sad to not get a HUD or I-drive. I have test drove all the x5 models besides the M and none really held up to the Porsche in terms of driving dynamics. Also think the interior and seats may go to the Porsche. But paying the same price for something almost a second slower to 60 (4.0 vs 4.8) seems a bit silly. The gas mileage has to be a bit better with the Porsche but that is low on my priority list. Am I crazy to pick the Porsche GTS over the X5m if they are the same price?
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