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      01-08-2015, 10:50 AM   #23
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Sounds like HEA car. News to me. I've seen that code applied to first wave cars before that are dealer stock but sounds like you custom built this.
Do you know where i can get residuals and Money Factor from? I can't find any info online.
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I just got this from my CA (I've ordered an X6M vs an X5M, but I'd guess they're close/same) - 36 mth lease

"57% at 15k miles. 60% at 10k

0.00130 money factor"
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Do you know where i can get residuals and Money Factor from? I can't find any info online.
Your CA. This info isn't typically posted online.
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"HEA" ?
It's an internal BMW term. It's German for Handler-Erst-Ausstattung which translates to Dealer First Equipment. Basically, the first production cars built heading to dealers for vehicle launch/marketing purposes. They're typically fully or near fully optioned and often hit the order bank before launch, meaning they usually can't be custom configured. But that isn't always true.
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Your CA. This info isn't typically posted online.
He gave me very different numbers... want to clarify things before asking my CA again.
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I'm also one of the 44 also. Mine scheduled to be released tomorrow 1/9. Should be at dealer Next Week. Black/Black Full Merino Leather.

Lease residuals are okay but not great... 54% 36 Months 12K per Year
0.00185 Money Factor.
Any update on your car? You should be getting it any time now right? Exciting!

Hopefully your stealership updated those lease numbers by now - they're way worse than the ones I was quoted / locked in with BMWFS :| (60%, 0.00130)
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"His" car is being held at VPC right now, since 1/8. Along with any others. BMW hasn't released them yet. This car is also marked HEA, not sold to a customer (P1), heading to BMW of Austin.
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"His" car is being held at VPC right now, since 1/8. Along with any others. BMW hasn't released them yet. This car is also marked HEA, not sold to a customer (P1), heading to BMW of Austin.
LOL. You seem like a man who may know - when are they releasing them? Still remarkably few (ie zero) allocations flowing out apparently also, I assume tied to them not yet being released to market?
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"His" car is being held at VPC right now, since 1/8. Along with any others. BMW hasn't released them yet. This car is also marked HEA, not sold to a customer (P1), heading to BMW of Austin.

That is correct. Was expected to arrive on 1/9. Any idea when these are being released?

MY CA tells me EPA has to do their testing before they can release the car.
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I'm hearing early to mid February for HEA cars, with customer vehicles starting to arrive after. However, I haven't seen anything concrete yet. Once I know a date I'll share it.

EPA testing is part of the development cycle. It should be complete right now.
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Hey Neurotichamster, thanks for the tip! Just put my deposit on a fully loaded model, they say I will be one of the first 50 people in the world to own the car. It has almost every option, including the B&O stereo, except for the rear seat entertainment and the night vision.


Also just found out BMW is likely to announce some kind of incentive for me to trade in my x5 since it has the n63 engine. Apparently there's some gigantic recall on it.

Yess!!
fattmatt: what did you end up paying relative to msrp? i'm looking at getting an x5m built in donington grey + aragon brown -- initial convo w dealer was that they would not discount from msrp
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fattmatt: what did you end up paying relative to msrp? i'm looking at getting an x5m built in donington grey + aragon brown -- initial convo w dealer was that they would not discount from msrp
Fattmatt bailed and bought a Porsche Cayenne ;p

You can certainly do better than MSRP. Anything more than splitting the difference between Invoice and MSRP is too much, IMHO ;p
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Fattmatt bailed and bought a Porsche Cayenne ;p

You can certainly do better than MSRP. Anything more than splitting the difference between Invoice and MSRP is too much, IMHO ;p
that's a very sensible approach...but i probably need to find a dealer who actually wants/needs the business. bmw manhattan doesn't seem to care whether they sell me the car or not
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that's a very sensible approach...but i probably need to find a dealer who actually wants/needs the business. bmw manhattan doesn't seem to care whether they sell me the car or not
ugh. I've had same experience with sales dept at Manhattan.
I do like their service dept, though. For sales, I've had pretty experience at Wide World BMW and Park Ave BMW in NJ.
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ugh. I've had same experience with sales dept at Manhattan.
I do like their service dept, though. For sales, I've had pretty experience at Wide World BMW and Park Ave BMW in NJ.
thanks -- if you have a salesperson you want to recommend shoot me a message..otherwise i'll just call and see what they have to say
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MSRP was 157k. I paid 130k. There's one left near philly and another in DC which I bet could be had for the same price.

The adjustable suspension on the Porsche is great. I love trolling people with it at stop lights.
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man, i'm torn... i know the X5/X6M will be beastly, but i'm so confused...

no one seems to be sure if the new models will have the all digital tachs or the old one from the current X5.

Also, if the 50i is really anywhere near 4.3 lets just say for arguments sake it's 4.5 when averaged out and not done by professionals....

getting that Dinan Tune and not losing warranty on the car would probably push it to 4.3 (or if the MT numbers are correct, from 4.3 to maybe even 4.1? or 4.0?) -

Then that's completely in range of the X5/X6M...

I know BMW has typically underrated their engines but hitting 4 seconds on a massive SUV is a pretty big feat, i don't think it's going to be better than 3.8 (if even)


This is insanely difficult, i feel like the dichotomy has been so screwed up for us current buyers.

Then you see random numbers being thrown around that the X6M will be sold at $130k and it really seems to be a complete waste of time.

practically fully loaded X6 M sport is $97700 and can probably be talked down to 94000 (probably more but i'm just being safe). 94000+3000 dinan stage 1 and I save essentially a car?

Seems kind of disproportionate. I really really like the new X5/X6M, but it just seems so off.
I have not driven the f8(5/6) yet but there is much more to an ///M car than HP and 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. If you just want to go fast in a straight line then get a X 5 5.0 and tune it up. If you want the experience of a car which has been massaged by ///M then the speed times will not matter that much. Every ///M version of a BMW E60, E90, E70 that I have owned or have driven compared to its non-m version is just that much better.
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man, i'm torn... i know the X5/X6M will be beastly, but i'm so confused...

no one seems to be sure if the new models will have the all digital tachs or the old one from the current X5.

Also, if the 50i is really anywhere near 4.3 lets just say for arguments sake it's 4.5 when averaged out and not done by professionals....

getting that Dinan Tune and not losing warranty on the car would probably push it to 4.3 (or if the MT numbers are correct, from 4.3 to maybe even 4.1? or 4.0?) -

Then that's completely in range of the X5/X6M...

I know BMW has typically underrated their engines but hitting 4 seconds on a massive SUV is a pretty big feat, i don't think it's going to be better than 3.8 (if even)


This is insanely difficult, i feel like the dichotomy has been so screwed up for us current buyers.

Then you see random numbers being thrown around that the X6M will be sold at $130k and it really seems to be a complete waste of time.

practically fully loaded X6 M sport is $97700 and can probably be talked down to 94000 (probably more but i'm just being safe). 94000+3000 dinan stage 1 and I save essentially a car?

Seems kind of disproportionate. I really really like the new X5/X6M, but it just seems so off.
I have not driven the f8(5/6) yet but there is much more to an ///M car than HP and 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. If you just want to go fast in a straight line then get a X 5 5.0 and tune it up. If you want the experience of a car which has been massaged by ///M then the speed times will not matter that much. Every ///M version of a BMW E60, E90, E70 that I have owned or have driven compared to its non-m version is just that much better.
+1.

I've done the M Sport to M step on every BMW I've had in recent memory: 335 to M3, 550 to M5, and now X5 5.0 to X5 M.

Every car I tuned, built, and modded to be the best it could be. But the M models always raise the bar and set a baseline that isn't always achievable with mods alone. By the time you factor in all the costs, you're at or have exceeded the base MSRP for these cars.

And then there's warranty coverage.

The X5 5.0 was no slouch. It amazed me how quick that truck was. The M will be quicker, no doubt. And to me it's the best of both worlds not including the actual utility of the truck, too.

And no, the digital cluster isn't included. But I'm not basing my purchase on that. Hopefully I'll be able to try a retrofit of that cluster at some point.
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