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      06-04-2013, 02:16 PM   #1
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So, what do we know about the US Diesel for the new X5 (F15)?


Here is what I see from the press release:

New X5 xDrive35d benefits from the latest BMW Advanced Diesel technology

The new BMW X5 xDrive35d features an all new inline six-cylinder diesel engine offering an even better balance between performance and fuel consumption than the outgoing diesel. The 3.0-liter engine, whose BMW TwinPower Turbo technology comprises VNT turbocharging and common rail direct injection, now develops maximum power of 255 hp and maximum torque of 413 lb-ft which is delivered between 1,500 and 3,000 rpm. In spite of the slight reduction in output from its predecessor, the new BMW X5 xDrive35d has a 0- 100 km/h (62 mph) sprint time of 6.9 seconds (preliminary), making it just as quick or quicker. With the latest technology and the addition of an 8-speed automatic transmission, the new model is expected to post significant improvements in efficiency (EPA mileage estimates will be available closer to launch). The new X5 xDrive35d uses the latest in emission reduction technology. Lower nitrogen oxide limits are met using a close-coupled NOX adsorber catalyst and an SCR catalyst with urea (AdBlue) injection.


So, this is an all new engine? Or just new to us in the US? Is the engine currently in use anywhere in the world in any car or truck? If so, what is the MPG (or similar) rating? Does anyone have an educated guess what the US EPA estimates will be?

I am very interesting in the new X5, and specifically the diesel.

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      06-09-2013, 02:04 PM   #2
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Here is what the German website is showing for the engines on the 2014 X5:
MINIMUM OF FUEL,
MAXIMUM FORCE.
The BMW X5 offers a wide range of innovative engines.
The diesel and petrol engines in the BMW X5 are characterized by high efficiency and revving. They belong to the latest generation of drives that - like many other technologies, the BMW X5 - the ideas ofBMW EfficientDynamics have internalized.
Petrol engines
Diesel engines
BMW TwinPower Turbo eight-cylinder petrol engine


Powerful and refined: The top-of the BMW X5 xDrive50i comes with TwinPower Turbo at 8-cylinder petrol engine. He is in the speed range from 1,750 to 4,500 rpm with maximum torque of 600 Nm. The engine accelerates with 300 kW (407 hp) in a breathtaking 5.5 seconds from 0 to 100 km / h The BMW xDrive50i combines twoTurbocharger Double-VANOS and High Precision Injection (HPI). Thanks HPI fuel is most efficiently distributed in the combustion chamber, while Double-VANOS torque across all engine speed ranges across distributed optimally.
Combined CO2 emissions in g / km - [292.0] [1]
CO2 efficiency
- [ G ]
Combined in l/100 km - [12.5] [1]
Cylinders / valves 8/4
Displacement in cc 4395
Stroke / bore in mm 88.3 / 89.0
Rated output in kW (bhp) at 1/min 300 (407) / 5500-6400 [2]
Max torque Nm at 1/min 600/1750-4500
Compression ratio: 1 10.0
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BMW TwinPower Turbo straight six-cylinder petrol engine


Outstanding efficiency: The BMW X5 xDrive35i with TwinPower Turbo straight six-cylinder petrol engine combines a twin-scroll Turbocharger with Valvetronic , Double-VANOS and High Precision Injection . This smart innovation package reduces CO2 emissions significantly and increases at the same time offered an impressive 225 kW (306 hp), maximum torque of 400 Nm and an acceleration from 0 to 100 km / h in just 6.8 seconds.
Combined CO2 emissions in g / km - [236.0] [1]
CO2 efficiency
- [ E ]
Combined in l/100 km - [10.1] [1]
Cylinders / valves 6/4
Displacement in cc 2979
Stroke / bore in mm 89.6 / 84.0
Rated output in kW (bhp) at 1/min 225 (306) / 5800 [2]
Max torque Nm at 1/min 400/1200-5000
Compression ratio: 1 10.2
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M Performance TwinPower Turbo inline 6-cylinder diesel engine


The BMW X5 M50d, the entire experience of the engineers of BMW M, which has been incorporated into the special fine-tuning of drivetrain, suspension and steering combined. The result is a car that thrilled by the impressive combination of pure dynamism, comfort and practicality. Distinctive features underline the sporty character and distinguish the vehicle inside and out from other BMW X5 - M genes included. The newly developed M Performance TwinPower Turbo inline 6-cylinderDiesel Engine with three-stage turbocharging and Variable Turbine Geometry propels the vehicle with remarkable traction. Numbers in the M genes are clear: 740 Nm catapult the BMW X5 M50d in just 5.4 seconds effortlessly from 0 to 100 km / h This impressive acceleration combined with maximum efficiency. On average, satisfy 7.5 l/100 km with a CO2 emission of 199 g / km. This ratio of power consumption and is unique in the class of the BMW X5.
Combined CO2 emissions in g / km - [199.0] [1]
CO2 efficiency
- [ C ]
Combined in l/100 km - [7,5] [1]
Cylinders / valves 6/4
Displacement in cc 2993
Stroke / bore in mm 90.0 / 84.0
Rated output in kW (bhp) at 1/min 280 (381) / 4000-4400 [2]
Max torque Nm at 1/min 740/2000-3000
Compression ratio: 1 16.0
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An automobile with a thousand talents.
Flexibility in the BMW X5
BMW TwinPower Turbo straight six-cylinder diesel engine


Refined power: the BMW X5 xDrive40d convinces with BMW TwinPower Turbo technology and 225 kW (306 hp) and maximum torque of 600 Nm, which is available from 1,500 r / min. Thanks to the two-stage turbocharging, it achieves exceptional performance. From 0 to 100 km / h takes 6.6 seconds, top speed is 236 km / h And with impressive fuel economy of just 7.5 l/100 km. Exemplary efficiency: 180 kW of power brings the in-line 6-cylinderDiesel Engine in the BMW X5 xDrive30d with 3.0 liter displacement. In just 7.6 seconds, it accelerates from 0 to 100 km / h Up to 540 Nm of maximum torque motor the engine at peak efficiency at: At 100 km, it requires just 7.4 liters of diesel fuel, making it the most fuel efficient engine in its class. And with the optional BMW Blue Performance technology already meets the Euro 6 emissions standard xDrive30d today, which come into force until 2014.

BMW X5 xDrive40d
Combined CO2 emissions in g / km - [198.0] [1]
CO2 efficiency
- [ C ]
Combined in l/100 km - [7,5] [1]
Cylinders / valves 6/4
Displacement in cc 2993
Stroke / bore in mm 90.0 / 84.0
Rated output in kW (bhp) at 1/min 225 (306) / 4400 [2]
Max torque Nm at 1/min 600/1500-2500
Compression ratio: 1 16.5
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BMW X5 xDrive30d
Combined CO2 emissions in g / km - [195.0] [1]
CO2 efficiency
- [ C ]
Combined in l/100 km - [7,4] [1]
Combined in l/100 km, max. - [7,5] [1]
Cylinders / valves 6/4
Displacement in cc 2993
Stroke / bore in mm 90.0 / 84.0
Rated output in kW (bhp) at 1/min 180 (245) / 4000 [2]
Max torque Nm at 1/min 540/1750-3000
Compression ratio: 1 16.5


The xDrive30d seems to be the comprable engine. It is putting out 245bhp with 398 lb-ft of toruqe. Economy for that is 31 mpg. I don't know how the new BMWs are, but there used to b significant differences with exhaust where the euro engines got much better mpg than we would.

I would tak 31 MPG though...just wish I could order one now! the wait is killing me. I start thinking silly things like I'd be better off just getting the 3er Touring Diesel.
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      06-09-2013, 10:44 PM   #3
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any chance we may get the M50d?
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      07-17-2013, 10:46 PM   #4
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no chance, no cayenne diesel S (400hp) ether. sux

only when diesel becomes more popular maybe next generation at least 7 years away

I can see that we are getting screwed with new diesel. Less power, less torque for maybe 1 liter of diesel less for 100km. The truck is lighter, but only 150lbs. It should be like 400lbs. No looker either. Time to order older x5
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      07-22-2013, 10:28 PM   #5
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BMW Engine links (gas & diesel)
Overview:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...troduction.pdf
N20:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...0%20Engine.pdf
N26:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...6%20Engine.pdf
N52:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...2%20Engine.pdf
N52 N54 (06>)
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...Mechanical.pdf
N55:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...nformation.pdf
N62:
http://www.bawarec.ru/manuals/7er/e6...7er-e65-12.pdf
N63:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...3%20Engine.pdf
N63TU:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...U%20Engine.pdf
Diesel:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...erformance.pdf
Diesel Technology:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...Technology.pdf
New Gen. Technology
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...Technology.pdf

More info-
VANOS:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...s/06_VANOS.pdf
Valvetronic:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...ALVETRONIC.pdf
Turbocharging:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...Technology.pdf
Emissions:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...Management.pdf
Battery:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...y%20Basics.pdf
Power Management:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...Management.pdf
Ignition:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...Management.pdf
Engine Electronics:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...ics%20IPOs.pdf
Cooling Basics:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...System.qxd.pdf
Cooling Systems:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...%20Systems.pdf
Chassis Dynamics (Suspension):
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...%20Systems.pdf
Electronic Trans. Control:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...%201-13-03.pdf
Automatic Trans. (A5S):
http://www.bmwtech.ru/pdf/e46/ST034/...20Internet.pdf
Climate Control:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...ctions.qxp.pdf
CCC (Car Communication Computer):
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...20Computer.pdf
Car Access:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...%20Systems.pdf
Goodwill Warranty:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/cou...8/Goodwill.pdf
Brake Systems:
http://prodcds.bmwuniversity.com/lib...ng%20Brake.pdf
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      08-07-2013, 01:30 PM   #6
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any chance we may get the M50d?
No Kumar.
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Be interesting to know if they are addressing the carbon in the intake issue
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