All engine oil dropped from engine upon start up.

Housekeeping · 12-12-2023, 02:26 PM

Hi! Started up my 2017 X5M and instantaneously all of the engine oil blew out, with force from the bottom of the engine. What a mess. I didn’t notice it for a minute until out of the driveway (got a low engine pressure warning). Off to the dealer. 42k miles… give me a break!!

pachieh · 12-12-2023, 03:40 PM

WOW. Interested in what they find. Oil pan gaskets leak on these things, glad you caught it quickly!

Chilled · 12-12-2023, 06:47 PM

That suxs. Seems a little of an aggressive leak for a gasket? Oil filter housing cracked?

Housekeeping · 12-12-2023, 06:57 PM

It was dry upon start up, maybe an oil cooler hose? The puddle is over 6’ wide so it had pressure.

jab23 · 12-13-2023, 07:05 AM

Oh man. That sucks. Hope there is no internal damage. Clean up must have been a pain in the a$$.

zeroping · 12-13-2023, 10:25 AM

Sorry to see this Sy1616. Please be sure to circle back and let us know what happened here.

Housekeeping · 12-13-2023, 06:23 PM

Turn out the OEM oil filter actually blew apart or cracked in 3 spots. The dealer tech has never heard of such a thing.

pachieh · 12-13-2023, 08:44 PM

I guess I could see that causing an overpressure issue in the filter housing and then blow the seals…

You should have them tear apart the entire oil system and check for leaky or blown lines. Gotta be sure no filter parts got sucked in. Of which, you could have them drop the oil pan and make sure you oil pump chain is tightened to spec too…

Chilled · 12-13-2023, 08:50 PM

Lol, at the dealer saying he's never head of this. Whilst not common, are a known failure point. Its plastic, it fails.

Have they done any further diagnostics? Any damage to the engine?

jab23 · 12-14-2023, 06:17 AM

Did the dealer perform the last oil change or dis you do it yourself? I'm just wondering if they will take responsibility if anything needs to be repaired or if they will just say you must have done something wrong.

zeroping · 12-14-2023, 12:13 PM

Wow! I've heard of this happening a few times with is why I purchased the Future Classics oil filter housing cap for my 18 F85. Also helps make oil changes that much easier.

I do hope this is resolved for you above the standard and you're back on the road soon.

Housekeeping · 12-14-2023, 07:42 PM

Update: dealer order new filter and housing. Engine sounds good/normal. Oil pressure is fine if not a bit high. Dealer sent oil pressures to BMW for confirmation. Dealer is “making a case with BMW given the odd situation”. Whatever that means. In record should something related occur. Not sure what to do now.

Housekeeping · 12-14-2023, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab23

Did the dealer perform the last oil change or dis you do it yourself? I'm just wondering if they will take responsibility if anything needs to be repaired or if they will just say you must have done something wrong.

Dealer has done all oil changes.

Housekeeping · 12-14-2023, 07:44 PM

Dealer has not taken, or been asked to, responsibility

jab23 · 12-15-2023, 06:47 AM

Sounds like they are doing the right thing and setting things up so any oil related future issue can be resolved, so that's good. Just stinks "hoping" everything is.

k3nny · 12-15-2023, 02:23 PM

Holy cow. Sorry to hear OP. Glad it got sorted. Was this also you -
https://www.reddit.com/r/BMW/s/tBAYwIUtUx

Similar issue….

Housekeeping · 12-15-2023, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by k3nny

Holy cow. Sorry to hear OP. Glad it got sorted. Was this also you -
https://www.reddit.com/r/BMW/s/tBAYwIUtUx

Similar issue….

Not me, but thanks for the link.

Housekeeping · 12-15-2023, 08:04 PM

Cars been in the shop for three full days, BMW now saying oil pressure readings too high. We’ll see what Monday brings.

Bobby_Drake · 12-16-2023, 01:41 AM

Sorry about your situation. At least dealer is working with you.
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640ijims · 12-17-2023, 07:42 AM

BMW parts warrany

Housekeeping · 12-18-2023, 08:22 PM

Dealer is saying it’s the oil pump pressure relief valve sticking. Replace pump, good as new.

12-12-2023, 02:26 PM	#1
Housekeeping Lieutenant 596 Rep 469 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	All engine oil dropped from engine upon start up. Hi! Started up my 2017 X5M and instantaneously all of the engine oil blew out, with force from the bottom of the engine. What a mess. I didn’t notice it for a minute until out of the driveway (got a low engine pressure warning). Off to the dealer. 42k miles… give me a break!! Attached Images
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12-12-2023, 03:40 PM	#2
pachieh Captain 245 Rep 639 Posts Drives: '17 X5M Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	WOW. Interested in what they find. Oil pan gaskets leak on these things, glad you caught it quickly! __________________ 2017 X5M, Donnington Grey, Aragon Brown Eisenmann Pro, Dinan Intake, BM3 Stage 1, XHP Stage 3 21" Vossen VFS-1 on Michelin PSS
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12-12-2023, 06:47 PM	#3
Chilled Major 364 Rep 1,019 Posts Drives: F85 X5M Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Tiny Island, Middle of Nowhere iTrader: (0)	That suxs. Seems a little of an aggressive leak for a gasket? Oil filter housing cracked?
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12-12-2023, 06:57 PM	#4
Housekeeping Lieutenant 596 Rep 469 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	It was dry upon start up, maybe an oil cooler hose? The puddle is over 6’ wide so it had pressure.
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12-13-2023, 07:05 AM	#5
jab23 First Lieutenant 224 Rep 375 Posts Drives: 2017 X5M Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: MA iTrader: (1)	Oh man. That sucks. Hope there is no internal damage. Clean up must have been a pain in the a$$.
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All engine oil dropped from engine upon start up.

12-13-2023, 10:25 AM	#6
zeroping Private 41 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2018 X5 M (F85) Join Date: May 2022 Location: RI iTrader: (0)	Sorry to see this Sy1616. Please be sure to circle back and let us know what happened here.
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12-13-2023, 06:23 PM	#7
Housekeeping Lieutenant 596 Rep 469 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Turn out the OEM oil filter actually blew apart or cracked in 3 spots. The dealer tech has never heard of such a thing. Attached Images
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12-13-2023, 08:44 PM	#8
pachieh Captain 245 Rep 639 Posts Drives: '17 X5M Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	I guess I could see that causing an overpressure issue in the filter housing and then blow the seals… You should have them tear apart the entire oil system and check for leaky or blown lines. Gotta be sure no filter parts got sucked in. Of which, you could have them drop the oil pan and make sure you oil pump chain is tightened to spec too… __________________ 2017 X5M, Donnington Grey, Aragon Brown Eisenmann Pro, Dinan Intake, BM3 Stage 1, XHP Stage 3 21" Vossen VFS-1 on Michelin PSS
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12-13-2023, 08:50 PM	#9
Chilled Major 364 Rep 1,019 Posts Drives: F85 X5M Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Tiny Island, Middle of Nowhere iTrader: (0)	Lol, at the dealer saying he's never head of this. Whilst not common, are a known failure point. Its plastic, it fails. Have they done any further diagnostics? Any damage to the engine?
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12-14-2023, 06:17 AM	#10
jab23 First Lieutenant 224 Rep 375 Posts Drives: 2017 X5M Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: MA iTrader: (1)	Did the dealer perform the last oil change or dis you do it yourself? I'm just wondering if they will take responsibility if anything needs to be repaired or if they will just say you must have done something wrong.
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12-14-2023, 12:13 PM	#11
zeroping Private 41 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2018 X5 M (F85) Join Date: May 2022 Location: RI iTrader: (0)	Wow! I've heard of this happening a few times with is why I purchased the Future Classics oil filter housing cap for my 18 F85. Also helps make oil changes that much easier. I do hope this is resolved for you above the standard and you're back on the road soon.
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12-14-2023, 07:42 PM	#12
Housekeeping Lieutenant 596 Rep 469 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Update: dealer order new filter and housing. Engine sounds good/normal. Oil pressure is fine if not a bit high. Dealer sent oil pressures to BMW for confirmation. Dealer is “making a case with BMW given the odd situation”. Whatever that means. In record should something related occur. Not sure what to do now.
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12-14-2023, 07:44 PM	#14
Housekeeping Lieutenant 596 Rep 469 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Dealer has not taken, or been asked to, responsibility
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12-15-2023, 06:47 AM	#15
jab23 First Lieutenant 224 Rep 375 Posts Drives: 2017 X5M Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: MA iTrader: (1)	Sounds like they are doing the right thing and setting things up so any oil related future issue can be resolved, so that's good. Just stinks "hoping" everything is.
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k3nny Private 55 Rep 71 Posts Drives: F15 X5 // E46 M3 Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Somewhere iTrader: (0)	Holy cow. Sorry to hear OP. Glad it got sorted. Was this also you - https://www.reddit.com/r/BMW/s/tBAYwIUtUx Similar issue….
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12-15-2023, 08:04 PM	#18
Housekeeping Lieutenant 596 Rep 469 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Cars been in the shop for three full days, BMW now saying oil pressure readings too high. We’ll see what Monday brings.
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12-16-2023, 01:41 AM	#19
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12-18-2023, 08:22 PM	#21
Housekeeping Lieutenant 596 Rep 469 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Dealer is saying it’s the oil pump pressure relief valve sticking. Replace pump, good as new.
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