My car still hasn't start production

[sirajkas]

Originally Posted by dn325ci

I just kept calling during that period. Between the time I got the Production number and the time production actually began, BMW and my CA were very vague. In my case the 800 number said "scheduled for production with no firm date" for about 3.5 weeks. But then production all of a sudden began, and the whole car was built within the next week.

That's exactly what they have been telling me. Only last time, someone told me that it is estimated for production in Week 6. I hope everything speeds up for me as well once I get the production no.

[chrisny]

Something isn't adding up. You can't have an estimated production week without an allocation, so it sounds like you DO have a production number. Further, as far as I know, the order number and production number are one in the same (and used to be called the production order number....). So I would call customer service to see why you can't add it online. Sounds to me like you're order is in and will go into production in a couple weeks, maybe sooner.

[sirajkas]

Originally Posted by chrisny

Something isn't adding up. You can't have an estimated production week without an allocation, so it sounds like you DO have a production number. Further, as far as I know, the order number and production number are one in the same (and used to be called the production order number....). So I would call customer service to see why you can't add it online. Sounds to me like you're order is in and will go into production in a couple weeks, maybe sooner.

You are right..
Just spoke to BMW customer service.. The rep said my order is in "No Quota Available" status. He had never seen that status before and he made a few calls and found out that my order could not be included in Jan prod quota and has been pushed out to Feb quota and should go in production next month. He said they are having supply issues and that could be the reason as well for feb quota. The requested production date for the order is Week 6 but BMW has not accepted the order yet. He confirmed the number I have is the production number. He said I will be able to add the vehicle online using that number once the order is accepted by BMW. He also mentioned that if the dealer didn't have allocation, they will not have been able to put the order in the order bank.

[rbarker33]

Originally Posted by sirajkas

You are right..
Just spoke to BMW customer service.. The rep said my order is in "No Quota Available" status. He had never seen that status before and he made a few calls and found out that my order could not be included in Jan prod quota and has been pushed out to Feb quota and should go in production next month. He said they are having supply issues and that could be the reason as well for feb quota. The requested production date for the order is Week 6 but BMW has not accepted the order yet. He confirmed the number I have is the production number. He said I will be able to add the vehicle online using that number once the order is accepted by BMW. He also mentioned that if the dealer didn't have allocation, they will not have been able to put the order in the order bank.

Sounds like your dealer doesn't have any allocations. Last week I finalized my order from a dealer in So Cal. Received production number before I left the dealership. Checked online a few days later and it is already in production. With a nice discount off MSRP.

[sirajkas]

Originally Posted by rbarker33

Sounds like your dealer doesn't have any allocations. Last week I finalized my order from a dealer in So Cal. Received production number before I left the dealership. Checked online a few days later and it is already in production. With a nice discount off MSRP.

Nice..
Can you share your dealer's info? May be I can switch to your dealer..

[leasehackr]

Originally Posted by sirajkas

You are right..
Just spoke to BMW customer service.. The rep said my order is in "No Quota Available" status. He had never seen that status before and he made a few calls and found out that my order could not be included in Jan prod quota and has been pushed out to Feb quota and should go in production next month. He said they are having supply issues and that could be the reason as well for feb quota. The requested production date for the order is Week 6 but BMW has not accepted the order yet. He confirmed the number I have is the production number. He said I will be able to add the vehicle online using that number once the order is accepted by BMW. He also mentioned that if the dealer didn't have allocation, they will not have been able to put the order in the order bank.

Siraj- Check your VIR or dealer speed print out. Status is listed on it.
here is mine. No quota avail - mean No allocations with dealer and No production number.

This is from dealerspeed application they use to put order in order bank. This doesn't mean order has been accepted by BMW.

Status
Status: 047 - Spec. released-no quota avail
Priority Code: 1 - Customer Sold
Production Dates [Yr/Mo/Wk]
Req. Prod: 2014/02/06

Just to note that mine was put in order bank on 12/8. Looks like I need to find new dealer.

Originally Posted by rbarker33

Sounds like your dealer doesn't have any allocations. Last week I finalized my order from a dealer in So Cal. Received production number before I left the dealership. Checked online a few days later and it is already in production. With a nice discount off MSRP.

Sweet!

[leasehackr]

Originally Posted by sirajkas

Nice..
Can you share your dealer's info? May be I can switch to your dealer..

+1

[chrisny]

abhiku is right. If the order isn't accepted, there's no allocation. Entering in the order bank doesn't do anything until the allocation is attached, sales manager at my dealer told me as much himself as he entered it. He could have assured me it meant something (I was pissed, as my CA had told me the order was in when in fact it hadn't even been given to the sales manager let alone to BMW), but he was honest. Order bank just records it, not submitted until allocation is attached.

[sirajkas]

Looks like BMW rep just fed me bunch of bs...

[barcelona]

From my VIR, ( if it helps)
Production number 001234567 ( 9 digits)
Status Not shipped
Prod. month 10 -2013
Order date 8-6-2013
Sold/Ava sts S-Sold retail
Sold Date 8-2013

Actual delivery to dealer was middle Nov.

[sirajkas]

Originally Posted by barcelona

From my VIR, ( if it helps)
Production number 001234567 ( 9 digits)
Status Not shipped
Prod. month 10 -2013
Order date 8-6-2013
Sold/Ava sts S-Sold retail
Sold Date 8-2013

Actual delivery to dealer was middle Nov.

Thanks..
Prod No on mine is blank.. Order status = "047 Spec released no"

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by sirajkas

Thanks..
Prod No on mine is blank.. Order status = "047 Spec released no"

So I just looked back at the VIR from before my dealer got the allocation and it said the same thing, 47. No production number. So what the hell number did they give you that they called an order number? I don't see anything on mine that would be remotely construed as an order number (makes sense, since it wasn't ordered when this VIR was printed!)

[sirajkas]

Originally Posted by chrisny

So I just looked back at the VIR from before my dealer got the allocation and it said the same thing, 47. No production number. So what the hell number did they give you that they called an order number? I don't see anything on mine that would be remotely construed as an order number (makes sense, since it wasn't ordered when this VIR was printed!)

No clue.. The CA had texted me the order number. It's not on the VIR or any document. When I call BMW, I give them that number and they can lookup my order in the order bank with my name on it.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by sirajkas

No clue.. The CA had texted me the order number. It's not on the VIR or any document. When I call BMW, I give them that number and they can lookup my order in the order bank with my name on it.

Must be some internal number I guess. Makes sense it has something beyond production number to identify the record in the system.. But definitely sounds like no allocation yet. I was told they usually get allocations the first full week of the month. I would ask your CA if anyone is in line ahead of you, or if you have the next one they get..

[sirajkas]

Originally Posted by chrisny

Must be some internal number I guess. Makes sense it has something beyond production number to identify the record in the system.. But definitely sounds like no allocation yet. I was told they usually get allocations the first full week of the month. I would ask your CA if anyone is in line ahead of you, or if you have the next one they get..

Last time I checked with him around 10 days ago, he said there were 15 people ahead of me.. So I don't think I am getting an allocation anytime soon. Checked with my local dealer today. They have an open allocation but want 3k more for the car. I might just bite the bullet and take it. Dont know.

[chrisny]

I would start calling other dealers, maybe consider further away if you need to. I know the wait lists have grown, but worth a shot. When I picked ours up in December, my CA said I ordered just in time, that any orders after that were looking at March the backlog had gotten so bad.

[x58881113]

Does any one know how long it takes to go from order documented to production begins status?

[rbarker33]

Originally Posted by x58881113

Does any one know how long it takes to go from order documented to production begins status?

I can tell you what mine has done so far:

Ordered car at dealership on 1/13.
Received Production Number from Dealer on 1/13
I decided to call the 800 number today just to verify and it said it was in production and scheduled to complete production on 1/22.

Total of 9 days? Hard to beat.

I don't know what day production actually started as I did not start tracking right away.

[sirajkas]

Originally Posted by rbarker33

I can tell you what mine has done so far:

Ordered car at dealership on 1/13.
Received Production Number from Dealer on 1/13
I decided to call the 800 number today just to verify and it said it was in production and scheduled to complete production on 1/22.

Total of 9 days? Hard to beat.

I don't know what day production actually started as I did not start tracking right away.

Lucky man !!

[leasehackr]

Originally Posted by chrisny

Must be some internal number I guess. Makes sense it has something beyond production number to identify the record in the system.. But definitely sounds like no allocation yet. I was told they usually get allocations the first full week of the month. I would ask your CA if anyone is in line ahead of you, or if you have the next one they get..

The 7 digit number they gave us is from Dealer Speed application they used to input orders in order bank.

https://www.dealerspeed.net/

When BMW accept the order, they will assigned new production number along with VIN number which can be use to track status on bmwusa.com.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by abhiku

The 7 digit number they gave us is from Dealer Speed application they used to input orders in order bank.

https://www.dealerspeed.net/

When BMW accept the order, they will assigned new production number along with VIN number which can be use to track status on bmwusa.com.

VIN isn't assigned until production starts (when status changes to 150), not when the order is accepted.

[leasehackr]

Originally Posted by chrisny

VIN isn't assigned until production starts (when status changes to 150), not when the order is accepted.

Ok cool,