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      01-23-2018, 12:15 PM   #23
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How I have always looked at it is that BMW has made the best inline 6 engines for years. Why go with something that's not their bread and butter.
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You can also code it to remember last mode set. I just recently did this and it's great! You won't raise any eyebrows when taking it to the dealer, since you can just put it in to Comfort mode before you drop it off and won't have to worry about it starting up in Sport mode when the dealer has it.

I'm right there with you on the dead spots and lugging in Comfort mode. It's fine most of the time but sometimes it definitely feels like there is way too much pedal travel required to get going. Eco mode is the worst, just feels like you are lugging the engine the whole time. I can't imagine it's actually too good for the engine...
Hardly feel any lug with Eco mode after I install mppk.
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How I have always looked at it is that BMW has made the best inline 6 engines for years. Why go with something that's not their bread and butter.
My dad had a E32 I6 several years ago and handed it down to me with 200k miles as my first car. We never had a major issue with the engine or transmission.
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8cyl isn't more reliable than the 6. Period.
Who says they are? Tho if you compare infamous n54 vs modern n63tu - I'm not sure who is more reliable

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How I have always looked at it is that BMW has made the best inline 6 engines for years. Why go with something that's not their bread and butter.
Ehhhhh..... what?

BMW had their V8 back in 1954 when there still were carburetors. If anything BMW is known worldwide for it's V8 and V10 engines in legendary cars like M3 and M5 starting decades ago.... These cars made history and defined auto industry for many years ahead - this is their bread and butter

You don't really think that BMW is famous for it's I6 in your e90?

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I've heard cases where people are getting their N63TU replaced. Never heard that with the N55
Blatant and utter lies! All lies made by Audi and Mercedes infiltrators
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8cyl isn't more reliable than the 6. Period.
Who says they are? Tho if you compare infamous n54 vs modern n63tu - I'm not sure who is more reliable

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How I have always looked at it is that BMW has made the best inline 6 engines for years. Why go with something that's not their bread and butter.
Ehhhhh..... what?

BMW had their V8 back in 1954 when there still were carburetors. If anything BMW is known worldwide for it's V8 and V10 engines in legendary cars like M3 and M5 starting decades ago.... These cars made history and defined auto industry for many years ahead - this is their bread and butter

You don't really think that BMW is famous for it's I6 in your e90?
Are you just a troll or uninformed? You decide the engine to use as a debate point to be the n54, first time they tried out a turbo six package in a modern car.

As I said they are known for inline 6 engines. Do your homework.

If someone were to ask any car person what BMW engine BMW is known for they wouldn't be saying and 8 cylinder. You sound foolish even bringing up the fact that they made others. Of course they did, but that isn't what they are known for is it.

They make a 3 cylinder turbo, are they known for that????? They have been putting inline 6's since the plane days my friend. Back when they were SOHC. If you need help, Google BMW IIIa.
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Are you just a troll or uninformed?
You always come that strong to anyone who has different point of view?


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You decide the engine to use as a debate point to be the n54, first time they tried out a turbo six package in a modern car.
So let me ask you this: how many times BMW tried turbo eight package before n63/tu? (Hint: never before). Now take your answer and compare it to yours "used for the first time turbo six" and tell me if it's not comparable and I was way off? Now tell me if turbo eight is easier to implement than turbo six n54 that you are so quick to say it's not fair to use as an example? Especially for a company that by your own logic did inline six since plane era

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As I said they are known for inline 6 engines. Do your homework.
They are known for many things and if engines are we are talking about in my opinion and opinion of many other people V8, V10 and V12 were cornerstone engines and brand defining moments in history
Let's list some of them: 507 Roadster was a V8, 7 series E38 had V8 and V10 - it was the first BMW car that made luxury vehicle fun to drive - the trend that continues now, M5 E39 - considered one of the best M cars and influence it made to auto industry - it had V8, Z8 Roadster with V8 - still refereed by BMW enthusiasts as best roadster ever made, I'm not even going to mention numerous other M cars having V8 and V10 (including current ones that are setting new standards for premium sport sedans and SAVs). Yes, there are I6 cars that I like too: M3 E46 and a more unique M1 (midengine I6), but there were others with for example I4 2002tii - imho even more BMW icon than all your I6 combined together and since you mentioned 3 cyl engines below - I would say Isetta with 1 cyl was more famous than 3 cyl bmw cars

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If someone were to ask any car person what BMW engine BMW is known for they wouldn't be saying and 8 cylinder.
You are boring, blah-blah-blah - no, many would say it's M cars V8 and V10/V12 - this is what BMW is famous for imho, especially in the world (including Germany, asia etc, it's not only NA you know)

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You sound foolish even bringing up the fact that they made others. Of course they did, but that isn't what they are known for is it.
Whatever you say. It's not like it's going to change BMW history you know

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They make a 3 cylinder turbo, are they known for that????? They have been putting inline 6's since the plane days my friend. Back when they were SOHC. If you need help, Google BMW IIIa.
Yeah, don't confuse plane engines with what BMW is famous for in car industry. Your IIIa isn't anywhere close to any BMW car that went famous worldwide. And you should know that their first V8 was a pushrod OHV, so it's not like they started production of V8s with n63

You know I'm so tired to argue with you, but let's dive a bit into BMW history since you mentioned IIIa. Only let's talk cars, not planes:

1. 1932 BMW 3/20 - the first BMW car designed entirely by BMW. Guess what engine it had? 4 cyl. Yep. Not a I6. So first BMW car ever produced got I4 engine

2. In 1933 BMW made m78 first I6 based on same I4 cyl lol - was nothing to write home about, but was cheapest 6 cyl. engine at that time (not a best thing to be famous for eh?)

3. BMW produced I4 and I6 simultaneously after 1933 up to when World War II came. They switched to planes once again

4. Guess what car was first to be made by BMW after World War II? Yes, this time it was I6 in BMW 501 made in 1952. However, their first V8 was made in same 1952 and was implemented in a BMW 502 2 years later

5. Then during post war era BMW produce lots of variant of that V8 and I6 too, but it came close to bankruptcy and guess what - they made the BMW New Class - cars that saved BMW from obliteration. Did they had I6 you may ask? No my friend they had M10 4 cyl, alas. Still no love for your favorite and "world famous" I6 eh?

6. Then starting from about 1970 to 1992 (until another V8 M60 engine was produced) BMW had lots of straight six models as well as I4 models, but even then it made V12 in 7 series

7. Now we are getting closer to car industry baby boom. Roughly from 1992 -
this was time when BMW really became famous worldwide - more cars sold, more brand image established as some new V8 and V12s were made. M cars became something that other manufacturers tried to reach but never were able to (for the most part, except some strong players like Porsche etc). this is the era when cars like E38 7 series, E39 M5 and then later other V8 and V10 and V12 cars were shaking world auto industry

Ask random person on the street what is a best known BMW car? Majority of time you'll get M3 and M5 post 1992 era - that's famous V8/V10 that BMW is known for. Key point here is "M" - this is ultimate driving machine BMW is known for. Period. I6 will probably come second best known, but in that case they won't tell you I6 - they will tell you 328i lol

Fast forward into future and guess what? BMW will be known for EV cars with excellent chassis and M brand. There won't be any I6, but M will prevail

So as usual, this is all just my opinion man (no need to call me troll and other names)

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I've heard cases where people are getting their N63TU replaced. Never heard that with the N55
Right on, and some people really like small titties better, really!
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Right on, and some people really like small titties better, really!
I'm a booty man tbh.
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I'm a booty man tbh.
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I'm not sure how this thread go so far off track...but Sport Mode is great.
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1. If I was leasing again I'd get the V8
2. If I were to purchase for long term, I'd get the i6
3. BMW is famous for their inline 6 engines
4. I am in sport mode 99.9% of the time because I like how the Adaptive M suspension feels in sports and sports+
5. I like both b00bs and b00ty
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1. If I was leasing again I'd get the V8
2. If I were to purchase for long term, I'd get the i6
3. BMW is famous for their inline 6 engines
4. I am in sport mode 99.9% of the time because I like how the Adaptive M suspension feels in sports and sports+
5. I like both b00bs and b00ty
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Ya it sure why someone brought up the i6 as if the OP asked about what engine we have. He asked about using sport mode all the time or not.
This has turned into an interesting read. Lol
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Steve Dinan disagrees with the 20 horsepower claim by BMW.

336 bhp and 377lb-ft from the mppk tune. With a 15 percent drivetrain loss.

1/2 second difference from stock is fully believable.
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Steve Dinan disagrees with the 20 horsepower claim by BMW.

336 bhp and 377lb-ft from the mppk tune. With a 15 percent drivetrain loss.

1/2 second difference from stock is fully believable.
Well mppk might be at the top of my wish list now.
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Went with the Dinan Stage 1 and no regrets! After I get out of the 1200 mile break in I plan to dyno it with and without the tune running. Being able to easily swap back and forth via the Dinan app is a plus, although outside of doing some dyno comparisons I don't expect I'll swap back to stock mode often.
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I've heard cases where people are getting their N63TU replaced. Never heard that with the N55
Right on, and some people really like small titties better, really!
Oh my god, is that how it works?!
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Hey guys - first time Bimmer owner here. I just picked up a CPO 2015 F15 with the M Sport package. My previous car was a fully loaded Camaro 1LE with the 6.2 V8, so my xDrive35i is completely different car.

Although the car definitely has some kick to it, I miss the acceleration pull. Sport Mode really helps with that, but would it be a problem if I switched to Sport Mode all the time? Any long term issues? Would I be the only person who would do this?

Also, mod recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I feel like it currently looks a little pedestrian.
Step 1 - Add M-Performance Power Kit
Step 2 - Select Sport+ Mode
Step 3 - Push transmission selector lever to the left so you see S1 under the speedo.

As others have stated, it should net you 0-60 times around 5.6 seconds, which is pretty impressive for 5,000 lb. SUV with a 6-cylinder.

If that isn't enough kick for you, you should have got the V8.
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Step 1 - Add M-Performance Power Kit
Step 2 - Select Sport+ Mode
Step 3 - Push transmission selector lever to the left so you see S1 under the speedo.

As others have stated, it should net you 0-60 times around 5.6 seconds, which is pretty impressive for 5,000 lb. SUV with a 6-cylinder.

If that isn't enough kick for you, you should have got the V8.
piggy racechip ultimate first before thinking about v8
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Step 1 - Add M-Performance Power Kit
Step 2 - Select Sport+ Mode
Step 3 - Push transmission selector lever to the left so you see S1 under the speedo.

As others have stated, it should net you 0-60 times around 5.6 seconds, which is pretty impressive for 5,000 lb. SUV with a 6-cylinder.

If that isn't enough kick for you, you should have got the V8.
Faster than half of the 6 cylinder midsized sedans out there. My gs350 was 6 seconds.
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