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MSport with M Adaptive vs Dynamic Handling Package.
Planning on ordering a new F15 with 3rd row but can't seem to decide between these two options. The price for Msport with M adaptive is similar to No-line X5 with Dynamic handling package with all other options being the same.
I prefer the look of the Msport external body features and the Msport steering wheel but not sure if it's worth sacrificing Dynamic Performance Control + Active Roll Stabilization. Would appreciate any input.
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Not easy to decide, in normal driving conditions you do need DHP. I do not have it and never had a problem. It is nice to have DHP but do you really need it?
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04-05-2015, 11:36 AM | #3 |
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I currently have an E70 with regular suspension and have never driven a car with DHP but the no.1 complaint my spouse has about this vehicle is that the ride is not comfortable enough and is bumpy especially in the back row. With sudden turns it also becomes nauseating for her with the body roll. Although I feel this has more to do with the way I drive than the taught suspension, I was hoping I could remedy this by getting DHP in our next X5. But I could be wrong
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Does the F15 with rear air suspension and M adaptive drive have less body roll compared to the E70? Thanks for your input.
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If you're happy with the handling of your prior 50i, I think you'll be more than happy here. The non-DHP still handles incredibly well for a vehicle its size. The difference is very subtle - it gives you confidence to go into sharper corners much faster, and drive more like a sports-sedan than an SUV. You've had some sporty sedans, but none that have the rails-like handling of DHP, so enjoy the aesthetics of Msport instead! Just my $0.02... |
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Just came from a E70 with standard suspension few weeks ago and I can tell you that Adaptive M suspension is a sportier ride. Depending on the settings you have it done chassis+suspension on sport the ride is flat and corners very well almost sports car like and I want to say very similar to my E60 with sports package and ARS+damping. Body roll is not totally eliminated but it is reduced significantly more than my E70. When you engage the system to comfort then the ride becomes more soft.
I have a 2015 Msport with 20" M wheels. |
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M Adaptive adds additional dampening which in turn helps with body rolling/pitching. It does not offer additional roll control beyond what the standard non-adjustable anti-roll bars offer, unlike DHP's active adjustable anti-roll bar mechanism which will adjust the effective anti-roll bar stiffness according to driving conditions. DHP also gives you torque vectoring which is undeniably the most useful feature of that package. Torque vectoring in a nutshell allows the car better directional control on cornering maneuvers.
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By that logic I shouldn't get the M-adaptive suspension either since I've never experienced it and won't know what I'm missing.
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Consider the Comfort mode as the baseline. So yes, Sport/Sport+ does offer better roll/pitch resistance than Comfort. Comfort mode is more "floaty" than Sport modes.
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It depends on your settings. In iDrive you can set the the chassis and drivetrain or both can be set to adjust in sport or comfort mode.
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Does it make sense to opt for DHP in 35i's? I believe someone mentioned that to take full advantage of DHP one needs to get it with 50i. Sorry for asking so many questions, I just want to make an informed decision and not end up with an expensive mistake.
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I honestly do not understand why people say you MUST get the DHP on a 50i.. maybe because they associate power with handling... but IMO thats ridiculous... I think some of these people just read what others say and repeat it on the forums.. I see this happening all the time.. people don't have any first hand experience in DHP suspension and they try to explain what this feature actually does.
For me in comfort mode ( default setting ) my X5 behaves normal... I don't feel any stiffness or tightening of the suspension. In sport or sport+ mode my X5 feels like a sports car, the suspension tightens up, my steering is more precise, and while taking turns the X5 stays flat and confident. Again refer to my post above where you can change the settings for each mode. |
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I passed on the DHP this time around to apply the dollars elsewhere and I can tell you the "standard" suspension is pretty dam good. If you can afford it, get it, no question. But if you would rather apply dollars elsewhere do so because unless shaving tenths off a lap time is your priority I don't think you will be unhappy without it.
The car is very capable in the conners and very comfortable too. |
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The system though comes at a cost. Its highly complex, requires many additional sensors, additional hardware in the suspension, has redundancy built in and of course requires a large amount of electronics and embedded software. Thus driving its cost up of the option. |
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