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      02-12-2014, 06:03 AM   #1
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20" M Double-spoke style 469M alloy wheels

On previous posts there was some debate over the Performance Tyre Vs All Season for those that have ordered the 3D M Sport, at least here in the UK.

At the risk of boring people, but wanting to provide a public service, I contacted BMW UK and asked them the question do the the 2PW 20" M Double-spoke style 469M alloy wheels come with AS or Performance?
They didn't know so had to prefer to Germany HQ.

They had an email back saying 'they are Run Flats'.

Not wanting to be rude but that was NOT my question.

When pushed again BMW said they are indeed All Weather Run Flat tyres.

So, at least in the UK (and Europe?) I can rest in the knowledge that I won't have to fork out ~£3K for a set or tyres and alloys on top of my £55K investment!

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      02-12-2014, 08:18 AM   #2
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You should ask which tyre exactly it is because in North America there doesn't seem to be a single all season 20 inch rft on the market.

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You should ask which tyre exactly it is because in North America there doesn't seem to be a single all season 20 inch rft on the market.
Now you tell me!

I was lucky to get that.

I really think that BMW don't have a clue about the basic's of Product Management and what they are actually selling, albeit via a dealer network.
Pretty poor show really.
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this would have been the solution to my painful resolution...
I lived in London UK for a year and I know the weather is very different from Canada...
so I would still feel more comfortable with Performance tires (or tyres... ) as they are also designed for wet conditions...and you get that a lot in Britain...
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this would have been the solution to my painful resolution...
I lived in London UK for a year and I know the weather is very different from Canada...
so I would still feel more comfortable with Performance tires (or tyres... ) as they are also designed for wet conditions...and you get that a lot in Britain...
Wet conditions in Britain.....no way
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You should ask which tyre exactly it is because in North America there doesn't seem to be a single all season 20 inch rft on the market.
From BMW UK:


At the time of manufacture BMW will use the best suited tyres that are available form any of the top five tyre brands. As you can appreciate, the brands tyre stock will fluctuate throughout the year resulting in BMW vehicles using a verity of different tyre manufacturers.

I can confirm that BMW recommend any of the following brands with regards to Run-flat tyres.

Goodyear
Pirelli
Michelin
Bridgestone
Continental

Yours sincerely

BMW UK

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      02-14-2014, 11:10 AM   #7
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But nothing specifically about 20" All Season tyres.

I guess we'll see soon enough.
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But nothing specifically about 20" All Season tyres.

I guess we'll see soon enough.
Nope.....they don't know.

Will let you know mid/late April
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Nope.....they don't know.

Will let you know mid/late April
That's absurd. I can understand not knowing the brand of tire, no-one can tell you that. But all-season vs. summer is something they absolutely should know. In the US, it clearly states summers and that's what you get with the 469m's. On my F30, I had 3 options:

1. 18" wheels with 'mixed' (staggered) summers
2. 18" wheels with (square) all-seasons
3. (as an upgrade) 19" wheels with mixed summers

Brand of tire is never guaranteed, but the type of tire is set by BMW. Seems to me that perhaps your CA isn't asking the right people or the right questions (given that he didn't even address type of tire in his response). I don't get it. In the US they know, but in Europe it's a coin toss? you have the right to be prepared when you pick up the car.
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That's absurd. I can understand not knowing the brand of tire, no-one can tell you that. But all-season vs. summer is something they absolutely should know. In the US, it clearly states summers and that's what you get with the 469m's. On my F30, I had 3 options:

1. 18" wheels with 'mixed' (staggered) summers
2. 18" wheels with (square) all-seasons
3. (as an upgrade) 19" wheels with mixed summers

Brand of tire is never guaranteed, but the type of tire is set by BMW. Seems to me that perhaps your CA isn't asking the right people or the right questions (given that he didn't even address type of tire in his response). I don't get it. In the US they know, but in Europe it's a coin toss? you have the right to be prepared when you pick up the car.
Hi chrisny, BMW UK after speaking with Germany did say the 20" 469Ms are AS RF. At least Europe, different spec in NA for some reason
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That's absurd. I can understand not knowing the brand of tire, no-one can tell you that. But all-season vs. summer is something they absolutely should know. In the US, it clearly states summers and that's what you get with the 469m's. On my F30, I had 3 options:

1. 18" wheels with 'mixed' (staggered) summers
2. 18" wheels with (square) all-seasons
3. (as an upgrade) 19" wheels with mixed summers

Brand of tire is never guaranteed, but the type of tire is set by BMW. Seems to me that perhaps your CA isn't asking the right people or the right questions (given that he didn't even address type of tire in his response). I don't get it. In the US they know, but in Europe it's a coin toss? you have the right to be prepared when you pick up the car.
Hi chrisny, BMW UK after speaking with Germany did say the 20" 469Ms are AS RF. At least Europe, different spec in NA for some reason
Ok good. I thought you were saying they still didn't know if they were all-season or summers.. Not sure why they do AS in some markets and summers others, but as long as they tell you which you're getting...
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I'm still curious which tire it is exactly since there isn't a 20" AS RFT on the market that fits the X5, at least where I live there isn't.
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I'm still curious which tire it is exactly since there isn't a 20" AS RFT on the market that fits the X5, at least where I live there isn't.
Hi. Will satisfy your curiosity, and mine in April.....I hope.
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20" Performance RFT. On Saturday that was what a dealer had on a 50i demonstrator. Given the winter we had, I found that odd.
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My dealer has an M50d with 468M wheels on display. I'll drive by later on and take a picture of the tires for you guys.
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Sorry to say, but it's Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT summer tires.

https://www.dunlop.eu/dunlop_dede/ti...sport-maxx-gt/
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20" Performance RFT. On Saturday that was what a dealer had on a 50i demonstrator. Given the winter we had, I found that odd.
Makes No Sense!
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Sorry to say, but it's Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT summer tires.

https://www.dunlop.eu/dunlop_dede/ti...sport-maxx-gt/
They Look Drop Dead Gorgeous...at least to my eyes!
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Makes No Sense!
Unless the car was just received from SC. Even then the dealer should have swapped it with 19's and then sell the 20's in the summer. Maybe they ran out of 19 (Winters maybe, AS likely not). I will be there in a month for servicing, I will ask out of curiosity.
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I've ordered 20" 551l with All Season tyres. The AS show on the factory build sheet, VIN archive download and on my order confirmation.

Went to the dealers today to have a look at the car prior to collection on Monday and guess what...

It's fitted with Dunlop SP Sport Maxx summer tyres.

Dealer will contact BMW UK tomorrow, but my research leads me to the same conclusion as coconut780 - there are no 20" AS RFT to fit.

Still, it will be interesting to see what they come back with.


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Hi. Will satisfy your curiosity, and mine in April.....I hope.
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I've ordered 20" 551l with All Season tyres. The AS show on the factory build sheet, VIN archive download and on my order confirmation.

Went to the dealers today to have a look at the car prior to collection on Monday and guess what...

It's fitted with Dunlop SP Sport Maxx summer tyres.

Dealer will contact BMW UK tomorrow, but my research leads me to the same conclusion as coconut780 - there are no 20" AS RFT to fit.

Still, it will be interesting to see what they come back with.
Good Grief...makes you wonder does anyone @ BMW know what kit they fit to the cars they sell
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If in fact there are no 20" AS RFT and the dealer told you so, then you should have more options to modify your wheels. If sticking with the RFT theme: swap to 19's AS, get a 2nd set of winters (19 or20). So ask your dealer for a good deal on various set ups. Free change overs, storage. Personal choice, but I prefer one set.

You never know, as KIP1 reported the M50d review was fitted with the nice 19" Hakka 7 ( winters).
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