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      02-11-2019, 02:49 PM   #23
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It's funny that I found this thread because the cluster stays white at night and I would like it to turn orange like it is supposed to. Although I do think there is something wrong with mine because not only do the gauges stay white at night but the idrive screen doesn't dim at night, the HUD is pretty dim during the day even with the brightness turned all the way up. I drove my friend's 2014 328d and his HUD was a lot brighter during the day than mine.
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There’s a place in NYC that does an led conversion to change the lights to any color you desire.
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      02-11-2019, 05:34 PM   #25
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I would love this too - not a fan of the orange in any of my BMW's. Personal preference I know, but I'd code it if I could. I think the problem would be that you would get it to stay white by turning off the sensor that turns it orange and then it would stay super white daytime bright and not be dimmable.
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It's funny that I found this thread because the cluster stays white at night and I would like it to turn orange like it is supposed to. Although I do think there is something wrong with mine because not only do the gauges stay white at night but the idrive screen doesn't dim at night, the HUD is pretty dim during the day even with the brightness turned all the way up. I drove my friend's 2014 328d and his HUD was a lot brighter during the day than mine.
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There's a reason it turns orange at night; it doesn't affect your night vision. There absolutely no reason to keep it white all the time
Then BMW is doing something wrong, as my M3 has white cluster.
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There's a reason it turns orange at night; it doesn't affect your night vision. There absolutely no reason to keep it white all the time
Then BMW is doing something wrong, as my M3 has white cluster.

LOL exactly. Funny how many people come to a car modifying site and then explain why you should not make your car the way you prefer it to be. =)
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If you light the instruments in the cockpit with green or blue light, the light will reduce the sensitivity of the rod cells in your retina, greatly reducing your ability to see dimly-lit things out in the darkness outside the plane. ... Red lights do not overwhelm your eyes during night or low light conditions. This is why they use it in planes, so it would apply to cars in certain conditions too.
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If you light the instruments in the cockpit with green or blue light, the light will reduce the sensitivity of the rod cells in your retina, greatly reducing your ability to see dimly-lit things out in the darkness outside the plane. ... Red lights do not overwhelm your eyes during night or low light conditions. This is why they use it in planes, so it would apply to cars in certain conditions too.
LOL - dash lights come in ALL colors from different manufactures.....so unless we have some proof that BMW are the ONLY cars that don't have night collisions due to night vision deprivation.....then what difference does it make? My eyes do not see red dash lights well - and the BWM red/orange is not much behind it. BMW has cars with white night lights already.....so unless they are just trying to kill those owners and not us - this argument is moot.

For those of you that love the orange - we are happy for you. For those of us that do not like it - we would like to find a way to keep the white that we enjoy more. We won't force it on you.....we promise! =)
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LOL - dash lights come in ALL colors from different manufactures.....so unless we have some proof that BMW are the ONLY cars that don't have night collisions due to night vision deprivation.....then what difference does it make? My eyes do not see red dash lights well - and the BWM red/orange is not much behind it. BMW has cars with white night lights already.....so unless they are just trying to kill those owners and not us - this argument is moot.

For those of you that love the orange - we are happy for you. For those of us that do not like it - we would like to find a way to keep the white that we enjoy more. We won't force it on you.....we promise! =)
I am not sure what there is to laugh about. My statement came right from a source explaining why they used colored lights in cockpits since they are better than white in low light situations, so you can believe it or not, but I think the aircraft industry probably knows a little more about it than you. Or maybe BMW just wanted something a little different, but my Passat had red lights too. If you like white, good for you, I couldn't care less.
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Man this thread is all over the place.

Just FYI i think "some" people may be confusing the "Night Vision" feature available on the vehicles versus night visibility.
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Man this thread is all over the place.

Just FYI i think "some" people may be confusing the "Night Vision" feature available on the vehicles versus night visibility.
Too many self proclaimed geniuses.
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A simple research will show that the amber/orange/red lights do not interfere with night time vision ( NOT nightvision ) which has been proven in military applications.

I prefer the low key non flashy blue or white interior dash lights.. it fatigues the eyes during night time drives.. in city/metro drives where you have ambient lights all around it doesn't affect you as much if at all. This only really applies on dark roads.
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LOL - dash lights come in ALL colors from different manufactures.....so unless we have some proof that BMW are the ONLY cars that don't have night collisions due to night vision deprivation.....then what difference does it make? My eyes do not see red dash lights well - and the BWM red/orange is not much behind it. BMW has cars with white night lights already.....so unless they are just trying to kill those owners and not us - this argument is moot.

For those of you that love the orange - we are happy for you. For those of us that do not like it - we would like to find a way to keep the white that we enjoy more. We won't force it on you.....we promise! =)
I am not sure what there is to laugh about. My statement came right from a source explaining why they used colored lights in cockpits since they are better than white in low light situations, so you can believe it or not, but I think the aircraft industry probably knows a little more about it than you. Or maybe BMW just wanted something a little different, but my Passat had red lights too. If you like white, good for you, I couldn't care less.

I'm LOLing because it kills me how many people come to a modding site and tell people why they shouldn't mod. if you couldn't care less then why reply to a thread asking how to do it??? A PILOT already chimed in that this is not true and if it was, why does BMW NOT use it in all their cars????

I just don't get why people feel the need to jump in and defend BMW's decisions. We don't care why it is orange, we just prefer it to be white. No one is asking you to change yours. If you like it orange, awesome. But just like the thousands of coding posts on this site, we would just like something different than BMW selected.

Try and research a remote start on this site. You get 1 post about it and 800 replies why BMW is right to not offer it clogging the thread. If I don't want to change something, I just don't and move on I guess.

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Who cares, if someone likes their dash purple, more power to them. This site is all about customization for personal preference.
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I'm still waiting for a pic �� i've never seen the orange instrument cluster as the x5m always has white faces.

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Bottom line, someone asked for help coding their X5 the easy way..
I tried to research how to change in the advanced mode using BimmerCode.
If any it will be under the Instrument Cluster ECU. But could not find anything related to the color of light.
I would suggest trying your luck by asking their support.

Hope this helps..
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afaik it's not possible in f15, unless you retrofit M cluster, but not sure if there are any drawbacks of that
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Try this thread:
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...5#post18088006

It seems you can change a value or two under 3007.

Hope this helps.
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I'm still waiting for a pic �� i've never seen the orange instrument cluster as the x5m always has white faces.
This is how it's supposed to look at night when I turn my lights on.

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Man this thread is all over the place.

Just FYI i think "some" people may be confusing the "Night Vision" feature available on the vehicles versus night visibility.
I guess I like the orange, because it is what I am use to? That said, white would be okay too.

As an aside, I actually leave my navigation in the “day mode” all the time vs. the automatic change to the darker screen for nighttime viewing. Some may contend it puts out too much glare by leaving in day mode; however, I find it easier to read than the darker screen. To each, their own.
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To throw another rat in the blender, video editing studios use bias lighting to see colors better and reduce eye fatigue in low light. This was developed by Industrial Light and Magic studios. The proper bias light is 6500 kelvin and a CRI of 98 or higher. In those applications white is better. Oh, and my Infiniti is white light for the guages. But ... I'm in the "to each his own" camp as I think in real life it's not going to make a bit of difference.

The bigger problem is having your wife sitting next to you reading articles on her iPhone while the screen is in torch mode.
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This is how it's supposed to look at night when I turn my lights on.

Better hit the gas station soon
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Better hit the gas station soon
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