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      11-20-2016, 02:45 PM   #45
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I did some research and looks like the E70 X5 and 5 Series and 6 Series models built between 2003 and 2010 were susceptible to catching on fire, but owners of several different models sprinkled here and there were also victims of this electrical problem. Cars can catch fire even when the ignition is off. This is pure madness and nonsense. I am scared of parking the X5 inside the garage :/
A legitimate concern in context of this thread... but I suspect that you're much more likely to die in a traffic accident than burn to death in/near your X5M.
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Years ago in Northern Italy lots of people died unnecessarily during an earthquake.

Reason was that an earthquake will trigger intended power shutdowns so as to avoid electrical sparks igniting ruptured gas pipes.

The unintended consequence was that the electrical main door openings of many buildings could not be operated. Backup keys, almost never used, were safely stored in locked drawers, practically unreachable in the rush to exit the damaged buildings - many of these then fell on top of the people piling up against blocked exit doors.

I mention this, because X5 have two batteries in the back. The car software has ample (and user-unknown) capacities to switch batteries. In a crash locked doors are designed to always unlock, but a fire is a different event..

What is very worrying here is the OP's description that the fire started (possibly due to a shorted main battery cable), then to protect the battery electrical power was shutdown for many seconds keeping the doors locked and only after a while power came back allowing door unlocking, probably by switching the door controls to the second still functioning battery.

If this is what happened, there may be a major software safety bug that needs rewiew and correction. Likely in this case the car's firmware has dumped the events in memory allowing to study the accident.

It is a horrible perspective to risk being locked in a burning car, this looks like a major safety incident that can be fully studied because the car and its firmware survived - and, above all, its occupants!

Please keep us posted - thank you!
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Wow this is so scary!!! Glad I have my pistol in the truck, so if I get locked I can shoot the window to get out...
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Definitely very scary. Glad to hear you are okay and I wish you a speedy recovery! Definitely don't blame you for entertaining other options. Both the MB and Cayenne are great substitutes. Best of luck to you!
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Definitely very scary. Glad to hear you are okay and I wish you a speedy recovery! Definitely don't blame you for entertaining other options. Both the MB and Cayenne are great substitutes. Best of luck to you!
Thanks Very much. Just ordered the '17 Cayenne Turbo. Think I will be happy but will miss my X5M. Really enjoyed that car.
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      11-22-2016, 03:33 AM   #50
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oh wow sorry to hear about that . its definetly an isolated case as there isnt much of these incidents reported for x5 or x5ms .i hope they come to a favorable conclusion for your self ,
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I am glad you are okay. That is a really scary thing to happen, and could have been much worse. This thread made me want to buy a window punch just incase.

What I don't get is why the door wouldn't open from the inside? I would have guessed pulling the door handle from inside is a mechanical movement not an electrical one. Otherwise they could have made the CHILD LOCK into a button that the driver can press rather than having to open the back door and physically move a lever.
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Wow, that's some crazy $hit! You hear this type of thing happening to Ferraris, Lambos, Teslas, but never BMWs. Glad you're okay and were able to make it out safely. Very worrisome that this could happen to any of us.
I've seen random stories of E53 X5's catching fire around the firewall (ironically) from the harness feeding the ECU's

OP, is the car still local and/or at a junkyard? I'd love to get the headers and turbos from it if possible.
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Wow this is so scary!!! Glad I have my pistol in the truck, so if I get locked I can shoot the window to get out...
That sounds safe.
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I need an extinguisher, portable glass breaker.... lol
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tastelid, I don't know if it's 100% safe I guess it's up to the owner of the pistol. But dying from smoke inhalation or shooting out the window. HMMMMMMMMM
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Such a scary incident. I'm glad you made it out OK
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I need an extinguisher, portable glass breaker.... lol
I told my wife this story on our way back from visiting family for Thanksgiving, and I've been instructed to order the glass breakers for both cars. If what the OP went through with a child in the rear seat, buckled in, the outcome could have been a lot worse.

Question: we all have tinted film on our windows. Does that inhibit the glass breakers from doing their job?
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I told my wife this story on our way back from visiting family for Thanksgiving, and I've been instructed to order the glass breakers for both cars. If what the OP went through with a child in the rear seat, buckled in, the outcome could have been a lot worse.

Question: we all have tinted film on our windows. Does that inhibit the glass breakers from doing their job?
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I'm not a scientist (nor do I play one on TV-- much to my dismay) but I would imagine it might make it more difficult. The concept of layering different materials of different strengths (i.e., tensile, compressive or shear strengths) is used throughout the safety industry to make materials less resistant to breaking. It's the principle upon which our windshield shatter in a controlled way.

That said, I'm sure the puncture and blunt force would be enough to overcome any additional resistance.
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tastelid, I don't know if it's 100% safe I guess it's up to the owner of the pistol. But dying from smoke inhalation or shooting out the window. HMMMMMMMMM
I'm more concerned about the people outside the car, when you start haphazardly firing out the windows.
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You're assuming it's haphazardly, the way you're thinking is he or she is just shooting the weapon in all directions until he or she is able to get out of the vehicle.
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Lol, I would just put the gun against the front windshield pointing upward, so it would break in one try and shoot to the sky. And it's just a 9mm so won't be powerful enough. I'm pretty confident that I won't freak out and start shooting in all direction like a lunatic lmao.
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Fk that. Hire an attorney and pull the FKN trigger!

Strict products liability is no joke and when you pay 115k+ for a machine, this is unacceptable.
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That's odd that it wouldn't let you out. Is it just that model?

I have a F22 and F31 and they seem to unlock mechanically from the inside. Pull once to unlock the door, pull again to open the door. I imagine it would work the same with no power.
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