Yokohama BlueEarth Winter Tires

[RPI-M5]

Has anyone heard of or tried these?

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...re=23VR1V905XL

They are significantly cheaper than the Pirellis and come in stock staggered sizes for our 21s.

[JB-A]

used them for 1 season as the Pirellis were not available - performance on snow was OK - no issues at all - main difference is that they are not run-flat...

[iconoclast]

IIRC Vredestein made a winter tire in the 21" specs. I am not sure if they still make them since I have not seen them listed anywhere.

[RPI-M5]

I just got my set of Yoko BlueEarth tires in the stock 21 inch sizes yesterday. I'll snap some pics this weekend (off the car). They will go onto the car in early November.

[chuchob]

Please let us know how they turn out. I was going to buy a winter wheel setup, but would prefer to just keep my wheels and swap out some winter tires instead.

[TTyza]

I'm planning on getting these as well, glad we finally have another option for winters!

[RPI-M5]

Originally Posted by chuchob

Please let us know how they turn out. I was going to buy a winter wheel setup, but would prefer to just keep my wheels and swap out some winter tires instead.

They will be installed on my car in about 2.5 weeks. I?ll report back. They look like a better tread patttern than the Pirellis

[iconoclast]

indeed.... the additional incisions between the chunks should displace water and snow much better than the pirelli design without these grooves.

[iconoclast]

after about 320km let us know your thoughts and opinion on them.

[RPI-M5]

Got the Yoko BlueEarth winter tires installed yesterday. Turns out it was just in time as it is snowing in Seattle as I type this (and was 35 and raining during my morning commute). Initial impressions

1. Tires are softer feeling than the MPSS. My guess is due to the softer sidewall
2. Immediate improvement in wet traction over the MPSS (in temps <45)
3. There is almost NO rim protection from the tire compared to the MPSS. I will be doing everything I can to avoid parallel parking the F86 with these tires on.
4. Dealer inflated them to 33psi cold. I may increase this.
5. I like this setup better than the square 20 inch setup I used to have so far. Will report more once I take the car into the mountains and drive in a few inches of snow.

[iconoclast]

Have you had the Pirelli Scorpion in the past? If so how do you feel they compare to those?

[RPI-M5]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

Have you had the Pirelli Scorpion in the past? If so how do you feel they compare to those?

I have used the Pirelli Scorpions exclusively for the past 6-7 years (on a 2015 Range Rover Sport, 2012 X5 3.0, and 2008 Subaru WRX STi). I think it is a good tire, especially in the rain, but always felt it could be better in the snow (especially wet snow). My early impression is the Pirelli will be a better handling tire in terms of sportiness, but the Yoko will be a better tire in very wet and snowy conditions. I'll have much more to report after next weekend where I'll take it deep into the Washington Cascades for the first time this winter.

All that said, even if it turns out to be a worse sporty handling tire, it was $600+ cheaper for a set of the Yokos than the Pirellis. That can't be understated.

[Roundown]

Originally Posted by RPI-X5

Got the Yoko BlueEarth winter tires installed yesterday. Turns out it was just in time as it is snowing in Seattle as I type this (and was 35 and raining during my morning commute). Initial impressions

1. Tires are softer feeling than the MPSS. My guess is due to the softer sidewall
2. Immediate improvement in wet traction over the MPSS (in temps <45)
3. There is almost NO rim protection from the tire compared to the MPSS. I will be doing everything I can to avoid parallel parking the F86 with these tires on.
4. Dealer inflated them to 33psi cold. I may increase this.
5. I like this setup better than the square 20 inch setup I used to have so far. Will report more once I take the car into the mountains and drive in a few inches of snow.

That pressure seems low- was that calculated per Yoko or just what the dealer decided?

[iconoclast]

Originally Posted by RPI-X5

All that said, even if it turns out to be a worse sporty handling tire, it was $600+ cheaper for a set of the Yokos than the Pirellis. That can't be understated.

agreed... my concern is am i trading "performance" for savings... i would much rather have a better performing tire in the wet and snow than a more affordable option. now that is not saying that because the yokohama is cheaper it is an inferior product i am just curious to read about those who have experience with both. from the looks of it... the yokohama has a tread pattern that should outperform the scorpion and being a conventional tire as opposed to an rft it should have better handling characteristics in the cold since the sidewalls will be more forgiving.

[RPI-M5]

Took the car for about a 120 mile drive last night and have to say the Yoko was really good. The sidewalks are stiffer than I thought and the tire performed sporty up until around 90 mph where you get toward the upper limit of its speed rating.

When I got to Snoqualmie Pass I got off the highway and got them on some icy roads and snow covered ski area parking lot (about 2 inches of snow). The tire was good and there was no slipping when applying the gas and no TC engagement happened

[RPI-M5]

Originally Posted by Roundown

That pressure seems low- was that calculated per Yoko or just what the dealer decided?

I tend to agree. I'm prob going to go up to 40. The dealer set the pressure

[musa]

Originally Posted by RPI-X5

I just got my set of Yoko BlueEarth tires in the stock 21 inch sizes yesterday. I'll snap some pics this weekend (off the car). They will go onto the car in early November.

Where did you get them? I just called Discount Tires, Bellevue and they simply can't find them. They tried their wholeSale supplier- tirerack - and they can't find them.

Thanks!

[RPI-M5]

Originally Posted by musa

Where did you get them? I just called Discount Tires, Bellevue and they simply can't find them. They tried their wholeSale supplier- tirerack - and they can't find them.

Thanks!

I got them on tire rack. Ordered them mid September. Snow tires tend to sell out fast because manufacturers fix their production and when they run out they are done for the year

[pachieh]

If they only made sizes for 20s...

[jmorgan911]

Just got these Yokohama winter tires mounted on an aftermarket set of 21 inch rims I got on eBay. So far so good, they drive well. I'll update after we get some snow and ice.

[ittam]

Just swapped the summer tires for the Yokohama winter on 20" rims. 275/40R-20 in front and 315/35R-20 in the back. Great looking tire and drives very smooth. No snow in MI yet so can't report on driving in snow.

[RPI-M5]

I can now report that snow and ice performance are tops! Had a situation in WA cascades last Saturday where the road turned from wet to ice in under a quarter mile and the tires transitioned well and bit the ice. Also needed to climb a 6 mile icy hill with 2500 ft elevation gain and had no issues with wheels pin or slipping. No traction control engagement.