X5 M Sport Winter Wheel/Tire Set UP

[opasha]

Originally Posted by cSurf

Reach out to Nokian- they're really responsive. They'll send you the name of a local dealer.

Thanks, man. I'll do that.

[SUV55]

Originally Posted by cSurf

Smart.

Thanks, looking forward to the DWS tires.

[SUV55]

What wheels do you all think will look best for my winter wheel set up for a Space Gray M-Sport: BMW 467M or 449?

Thanks

[opasha]

Originally Posted by SUV55

What wheels do you all think will look best for my winter wheel set up for a Space Gray M-Sport: BMW 467M or 449?

Thanks

449 all day. I owned them and they were solid looking wheels. 467 are ugly in my opinion. The only way to make them look good is to powder coat with high gloss like sand99 did on his, but his car is black. The 449 match really well with Space Grey because of the middle grey finish. Also, because of the finish, the 449 shines much much more where the silver alloy color is in those Vs. The 467M wheels are mostly flat in this regard.

Here's the 449: can't find of any M-Sport that put 449's on





Here's the 467M:

[SUV55]

Thanks Opasha! I have been digging for photos to post then I saw you beat me to it.

[opasha]

Originally Posted by SUV55

Thanks Opasha! I have been digging for photos to oppost then I saw you beat me to it.

Anytime .

[SUV55]

What color did Sand99 powder coat them? My brother has these wheels on a 2014 white M-Sport (for all seasons).

[opasha]

Originally Posted by SUV55

What color did Sand99 powder coat them? My brother has these wheels on a 2014 white M-Sport (for all seasons).

Hey powder coated them black with a glossifier finish to give it a nice shine, which was a great idea to match his car paint: http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=996196.

Before:



After:

[SUV55]

I can't find any M-Sports in Space Gray with 449 wheels either. I would like to see it on an M-Sport if poosible. Does anyone out there have good photoshop skills? If so posting such a photo would be very appreciated.

[SUV55]

Opasha, those powder coated wheels look great! My brother mentioned if he could improve the look of his 467s on his white M-Sport. How do you think the black powder coating these wheels would look on a white vehicle?

[opasha]

Originally Posted by SUV55

I can't find any M-Sports in Space Gray with 449 wheels either. I would like to see it on an M-Sport if poosible. Does anyone out there have good photoshop skills? If so posting such a photo would be very appreciated.

Originally Posted by SUV55

Opasha, those powder coated wheels look great! My brother mentioned if he could improve the look of his 467s on his white M-Sport. How do you think the black powder coating these wheels would look on a white vehicle?

I have pretty decent photo shop skills...I'll try to get a good picture of the wheels onto an M-sport later today if I get time.

On a white vehicle, they would look great only if he used a glossifier coating after he powder coated because I don't think matte black wheels look that great in general.

http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=998023:





http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...hp?p=15798343:

[SUV55]

Thanks so much Opasha, you are very helpful. Looking forward to the photoshopped MSport!

[opasha]

I just finished this render on @atomic80's Space Grey M-sport when he still had his 20" 469M wheels. I should have used a 19" setup, but I couldn't find a nice picture that had a complete side profile. The one I posted up above was a pretty small/terrible image, so I thought it wouldn't do the car justice by modifying that one. The setup here is closer to a 20" setup, but you get the idea. If it really bothers you, I can do the render for you with 19" wheels if you find me a better side profile space grey m-sport. However, this gives you a good idea. I used real wheels from the picture above I posted and I also used the wheel picture from BMW's website for the 449. Trust me and go for the 449 wheel.
BMW's 449 wheel image:



Real 449 wheel image taken from top X-Line photo:

[SUV55]

Thanks for the photos Opasha. You are awesome!

They even look better on the M-Sport. These are the wheels I will order.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by opasha

I just finished this render on @atomic80's Space Grey M-sport when he still had his 20" 469M wheels. I should have used a 19" setup, but I couldn't find a nice picture that had a complete side profile. The one I posted up above was a pretty small/terrible image, so I thought it wouldn't do the car justice by modifying that one. The setup here is closer to a 20" setup, but you get the idea. If it really bothers you, I can do the render for you with 19" wheels if you find me a better side profile space grey m-sport. However, this gives you a good idea. I used real wheels from the picture above I posted and I also used the wheel picture from BMW's website for the 449. Trust me and go for the 449 wheel.

Wow, looks way better than I would have thought. Now, the 20" vs. 19 is no small difference, the 19's won't look quite this good. But the style and coloring does look great with Space Gray.

[opasha]

Originally Posted by SUV55

Thanks for the photos Opasha. You are awsome!

They even look better on the M-Sport. These are the wheels I will order.

Originally Posted by chrisny

Wow, looks way better than I would have thought. Now, the 20" vs. 19 is no small difference, the 19's won't look quite this good. But the style and coloring does look great with Space Gray.

Thanks, guys and you're very welcome @SUV55. Chris is right...the 20s will always look nicer/more aggressive compared to 19s. However, like I said and Chris ascertained just now - the 449 style definitely flows the best between the two on the Space Grey. I would have kept mine if they were 21" because they still looked great with my Mineral White, but I've been spoiled with larger wheels :

[NOVA99]

Originally Posted by SUV55

The reason for going all season non-RFs: I want them to last considerably longer, inclement weather capability during overlapping seasons, less noisy and better ride quality.

I had a 50i with Conti DWS on 20's. If you put the Contis on you will not require snow tire/wheel package. They are quieter, ride better, and get around very well in snow and slush. Powered through stuff like this last winter all the time. I live in the MW.

[SUV55]

Originally Posted by NOVA99

I had a 50i with Conti DWS on 20's. If you put the Contis on you will not require snow tire/wheel package. They are quieter, ride better, and get around very well in snow and slush. Powered through stuff like this last winter all the time. I live in the MW.

How snowy was last winter in the MW? Are you talking good traction on packed snow covered roads say 2 to 3" or deep new fallen snow ie good performance during a big snowstorm? The 20's had no tendancey to float on top of the snow?

Have you ever had narrower all seasons or dedicated snow tires 18's or 19's?
Would love to hear a comparison of any prior vehicles with a description of tires used vs the 20" DWS.

Compared to 19" dedicated snows like Dunlop sport 3d or Pirelli Scorpion, I would think they would be vastly superior.

If the 20" DWS worked well in very snowy conditions, that would save me quite a bit of money.

Thanks

[yiyi]

I would love to get more info on the 20" DWS, too. I live in the west coast, where it is below freezing for only couple of days.

Is it OK to just replace the RF tires to DWS, & switch back after winter is over? Or Should I get another set of rim for winter use only?

[NOVA99]

Originally Posted by SUV55

How snowy was last winter in the MW? Are you talking good traction on packed snow covered roads say 2 to 3" or deep new fallen snow ie good performance during a big snowstorm? The 20's had no tendancey to float on top of the snow?

Have you ever had narrower all seasons or dedicated snow tires 18's or 19's?
Would love to hear a comparison of any prior vehicles with a description of tires used vs the 20" DWS.

Compared to 19" dedicated snows like Dunlop sport 3d or Pirelli Scorpion, I would think they would be vastly superior.

If the 20" DWS worked well in very snowy conditions, that would save me quite a bit of money.

Thanks

1. Upper Midwest. We get everything for weather. Cold and snow worst since the 70s this last year.
2. Both. It snowed everyday for weeks at a time, hence the photo I attached. Comfortable at 60mph on snow packed highways for a competent driver.
3. A 20" with a 325 staggered setup will always have more tendency to "float" than a narrow 18 or 19 series tire. But the AWD coupled with good tires never let me down.
4. Never put dedicated wheels or smaller wheels on any Bimmer or any other vehicle I owned. Just good tires. So, unfortunately I do have a comparison.
5. $1100 for the Contis: keep the 20" look year round, get a better ride, quieter ride, longer lasting tires, and save money not buying another set of wheels/tires.

For transparency sake the vehicle was leased for my wife (as we always do) and we knew it was going back so I was not going to pay for winter wheel setup when the offset changed when the F15 was rolled out and the E70 in the pic was outgoing model.

I have only owned/leased AWD or 4x4 vehicles my whole life and the Xdrive was impressive once it had a good pair of shoes on it. Have not ordered a F15 yet, (looking at RRS V8SC instead) but if I do it will have MSport 20s with Pirelli Snow and Ice RFTs so I do not have to order a Space Saver Spare this time.

Go read the reviews on the large Contis and Pirellis at Tire Rack. I did my homework before and it paid off like you are.

[SUV55]

Thank you for your in depth response. Interesting take on the DWS 20" tires. It's not the first time I heard the Conti 20's hold their own in snow and ice. Compentent/very good traction...yes. Optimal...probably not as I am sure there is some room for improvement. The softer rubber compounds in conjunction with narrower dedicated winter tires will likely take things up a notch. $3,000 is a good bit of $ for optimal. Hmmm.

[NOVA99]

I agree. The problem I had is ANOTHER $3K for wheels/tires after I shell out $80K for the vehicle....Give us a tire option BMW for the US/C market since we do not have the Autobahn!!! A grand or so on tires to fit on the wheels I ordered and paid up for is less of a big deal. Plus the benefits of a quieter ride, more compliant ride, less trips to a dumbass dealer, and year round feasibility made more sense to me. The RFTs suck and I knew this going in. 24mos. and no trips to the dealer except for 1 service! If I have to resort to 8 wheels and 8 tires on an ALL WHEEL DRIVE SAV then I will seek out better options...Escalade, Denali, GL550, RRS... no changing wheels or tires on those beasts.

Honestly, the Contis are the best way to go and I loved them but in keep in mind if you get a flat they are not RFT and most Bimmers do not have a spare so research and prepare for the worst.