BMW had Stopped 2016 Diesel Production... is now accepting orders-Production Jan!!!!

[Snow-Kidney]

Originally Posted by drjoe66

Well, they could have checked before they had me fill out all the paperwork and they took my deposit. The salesguy promised me to email back with new info on Thursday. Nothing. Now they went silent. And they have my deposit....

Have they cashed the check or charged the card yet?

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by drjoe66

Well, turns out my 2015 order was an "error" by the dealer. They claimed on Monday that they would have 100% no problems ordering a 2015 with the all Canberra interior. I asked them several times if they were sure and both the salesdude and the manager agreed. Well, two days later the call and of course they cannot order one anymore. only a 2016 with the black interior. What kind of training do those people get? None?

Do you now believe if I tell you we know much more than the dealers themselves?

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by scanido

I stopped by my dealer and they still have no word on any 2016 production allotments. Maybe its just my dealer that is mis-informed. Does anyone know if we can now order a 2016?

Check the order guide on my other link I sent you...it states SOP 01/16.
Dealers may now fight for allocations...

[drjoe66]

Originally Posted by Snow-Kidney

Have they cashed the check or charged the card yet?

It's all sorted out. My sales guy just didn't feel he had to respond. The gm is excellent and took care of it.

[drjoe66]

Originally Posted by Shaw

Do you now believe if I tell you we know much more than the dealers themselves?

I always knew that?. More than once I had to explain something to my salesperson......

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by drjoe66

I always knew that?. More than once I had to explain something to my salesperson......

Yup!
Last year I had to explain to a sales guy at the dealership what G11 and G30 were!!??!!

[Shaw]

Spoke with dealer...no signs of diesel to be seen for Jan/Feb...(Canada)...
Admitted that this is due to additional tests put forth...

[Shaw]

Latest update from dealership:
"We spoke to BMW and actually the delay in 2016’s is due to the government wanting all manufacturers to delay new model year diesels so it is neither dealer nor BMW Canada at fault over this. They are merely complying with them."
Thoughts?

[Shaw]

Does anyone know if Mercedes is selling 2016 Diesel right now in Canada with clear delivery dates?

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by Shaw

Does anyone know if Mercedes is selling 2016 Diesel right now in Canada with clear delivery dates?

I was offered a 2016 GLE Coupe diesel just a couple weeks ago, not sure if anything has changed on that front.

My brother in law is receiving his 2016 GL 350 diesel on Wednesday this week, so I believe Mercedes is definitely selling/delivering diesel still.

I did speak to someone @ VW and he is not selling ANY VW diesels right now, with hopes of them becoming available in the first quarter of 2016.

[BGR]

Are there any updates on this for the US market? I was going to place an order for an 35d tomorrow but if the wait time is unknown, or 8+ weeks, that will impact my decision.

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by BGR

Are there any updates on this for the US market? I was going to place an order for an 35d tomorrow but if the wait time is unknown, or 8+ weeks, that will impact my decision.

Normally US is more strict on diesel due to California Act....Canada followd the most stringent Act as well which is California.
If you've noticed, they've recently opened up shop with 2016 diesel on US site....which wasn't there 2 weeks ago...so that should mean something.
Also, I assume if based in SlammedR8's comment, VW is that optimistic, then it should be a walk in the park for the rest.

By the way don't forget, this sensitivity only applies to purchase or financing IMO...
If you are leasing...forget about all this and order yours yesterday...diesel is the way to go and X5 diesel is rock solid.

[rbilramz]

Got an email today that the $1,500 option credit for a 2016 X5 is now available on the 35d (it wasn't in November). Looks like BMW is planning on selling the diesel in the US this month.

[Kanuc]

My sales rep in Calgary confirmed today that there will be no January production month X5 diesels built - at least not for delivery to Canada.

The reason has not been very clear. Something about "China" - believe it or not! Doesn't everyone blame China for everything these days?

Any intel on when production will restart?

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by Kanuc

My sales rep in Calgary confirmed today that there will be no January production month X5 diesels built - at least not for delivery to Canada.

The reason has not been very clear. Something about "China" - believe it or not! Doesn't everyone blame China for everything these days?

Any intel on when production will restart?

I've also got confirmation from rep that the diesel doesn't look good...
Seems like it won't be here for their Q1...
Makes me wonder though...as US has been more stringent than Canada and yet they are accepting diesel orders for the month of January?!

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by Shaw

I've also got confirmation from rep that the diesel doesn't look good...
Seems like it won't be here for their Q1...
Makes me wonder though...as US has been more stringent than Canada and yet they are accepting diesel orders for the month of January?!

hmm maybe I should have taken the 2015 X5d haha. Just kidding, I want to see how this plays out and I just picked up a set of winter tires for the 535xi I am driving (my mother in law's car). I will re-evaluate in the early spring!

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by SlammedR8

hmm maybe I should have taken the 2015 X5d haha. Just kidding, I want to see how this plays out and I just picked up a set of winter tires for the 535xi I am driving (my mother in law's car). I will re-evaluate in the early spring!

Good luck mate!
We decided to pick up the 35i at hand...I don't want to put my wife in an awkward situation with no definitive timeline...With winter ahead...
Plus, based on our mileage and gas consumption, it will take her almost 3 years to break even on price difference vs. diesel...and with all the speculations going on....no thx!

[jugdish]

Interesting article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/billvisn...sel-scandal/4/

What do others think of the significant savings over time on the 35d vs the 35i and 50i?

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by jugdish

Interesting article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/billvisn...sel-scandal/4/

What do others think of the significant savings over time on the 35d vs the 35i and 50i?

Love the article...
I still doubt that we could get a better deal from other diesels just because of VW's fiasco...
BMW Canada has just increased its base on diesel by an extra $300 on top of the previous $500 increase over 2015 model. So now they will be charging $67,800 for 2016 instead of planned$67,500.
Compared to 2015 at $67,000.

[Stinkyxy]

I suspect that BMW want to deliver 35ds to the U.S. Before Canada because they make more $ there. So they'll fill all of the back orders and then release to canada. I am sure they are taking a hit on earnings so they have some catching up to do. That most likely pushes it to feb/March for canada.

Well that's what I would do if I was at the helm of BMW.

[Shaw]

Originally Posted by Stinkyxy

I suspect that BMW want to deliver 35ds to the U.S. Before Canada because they make more $ there. So they'll fill all of the back orders and then release to canada. I am sure they are taking a hit on earnings so they have some catching up to do. That most likely pushes it to feb/March for canada.

Well that's what I would do if I was at the helm of BMW.

Tables are turning...standby as I may have some new developments by Friday.

[JonoSS]

Another interesting comment from BMW CEO about diesel:

http://www.canada.com/mobile/iphone/...ml?id=11556565