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      04-30-2015, 09:08 AM   #89
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Looks great! Brings back fond memories of my old truck while eagerly awaiting the new one.
Your X5 solidified my decision to go with all of these BMW Performance parts. After years of dealing with aftermarket parts I was sick of dealing with expensive parts that fit poorly. Can't go wrong with oem parts. They fit like the glove and they really make the install pretty much fail safe.

I've been following your posts about your X5M. Crazy to be that delayed when other people in your area have been collecting their cars for weeks already. Can't wait to see what you have planned for it when it arrives.

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Does the MPPK give the exhaust a better sound? Can you feel the higher hp and torque? Better MPG? Or is it a placebo effect?
I'm not the best person to comment since my truck was delivered with the MPPK installed but I posted a document from BMW about the MPPK software lowering 0-60mph by .5 seconds which is significant. The published numbers are underrated which seems correct with the half a second drop to 60mph and also dinan's dyno of a mppk car.

Everyone says that it changes the way the exhaust sounds with the MPPK. The delivery specialist thought I had the 50i when they were pulling in my X5 because he said it sounded different from the other 35i

MPG shouldnt be affected. Def. not going to improve it giving its nature.

What i like about the MPPK is the fact that it alters other areas of the car besides peak numbers. Think of what hitting Sport mode does to the car currently and the MPPK takes that up another notch in terms of feel and power.

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But you cant modify the MPPK setting yourself can you? Are you talking if BMW comes up with revisions to the flash you can make unlimited changes?
No the user can not make any changes to this. What i meant is that when BMW created the MPPK software they had access to tweak anything and everything they seemed fit for a higher performing tune. Something piggybacks will never be able to do because they are limited to certain signals that they can trick the ecu into making more boost. A software flash tune adjusts everything to support the higher boost as well as throttle response, engine/exhaust note, transmission shift logic, cooling if necessary.

I've never driven a non MPPK F15 X5 35i but I did have a 2013 E70 X5 35i for a week before and the power, throttle response and transmission logic is 10000x better in my F15. The E70 felt numb and anemic where as my MPPK X5 feels athletic. The 50i i can only imagine would feel like a rocketship like my 550 did.

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Great update. So did you end up using only 3M adhesive all around? No messy beta link?
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@Alan l. - you are really tempting me to get MPPK and the front/rear splitters. I am not a fan of the CF rear Flaps though..
Does BMW offer CF spoiler's or only gloss black?

Also how difficult was it to install the M50D open grills? I think I will leave off the silver Grill Blades though...
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Great update. So did you end up using only 3M adhesive all around? No messy beta link?
I ordered the betalink but ended up not using it. The 3M VHB tape i got was so sticky I would be surprised that it didn't hold. I took lots of detailed pics of how i installed this so I will share them once i have time to upload everything. If it holds good for a week then I am good. I notice that with the tape it takes a few days of heat cycling for it to really really bond.

I was really against using betalink because that stuff is messy as hell and its permanent. I don't plan on ever taking off the CF parts but i have to plan just incase they get damaged from other people hitting me that I will be able to remove/replace the parts relatively easily. Thats not possible with betalink imo.

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      04-30-2015, 10:27 AM   #95
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@Alan l. - you are really tempting me to get MPPK and the front/rear splitters. I am not a fan of the CF rear Flaps though..
Does BMW offer CF spoiler's or only gloss black?

Also how difficult was it to install the M50D open grills? I think I will leave off the silver Grill Blades though...
MPPK is worth it to me for the throttle response alone. .5 second reduction to 60 is nothing to sneeze at imo.

Each piece can be ordered separately. The only part that comes gloss black is the roof spoiler. Everything else comes in CF only. As for the rear wings/flaps it looks best when you see the whole truck from a distance. It looks alittle strange by itself but it ties in to the rest of the rear diffuser imo. Gives it alittle of the old X5 4.8is look which i always liked.

Installing the m50D fins isn't hard. Doing the open face grills was a b1tch and a half along with the reflector. I originally tried to do this with just pulling back part of the fender liner but that wasn't going to work. There is a good amount of stuff you need to remove before you can pull the grills out from behind as well as accessing the front reflectors which are sandwiched by another part. Those one time use tabs holding the fender flares are the stupidest things i've ever seen from BMW.

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Installing the m50D fins isn't hard. Doing the open face grills was a b1tch and a half along with the reflector. I originally tried to do this with just pulling back part of the fender liner but that wasn't going to work. There is a good amount of stuff you need to remove before you can pull the grills out from behind as well as accessing the front reflectors which are sandwiched by another part. Those one time use tabs holding the fender flares are the stupidest things i've ever seen from BMW.

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Alan, but all of those work pays off, am I right?
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      04-30-2015, 12:34 PM   #97
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Thanks and yes the M50 fins and the open grill made a huge impact on the front end. Looks so much better now!

I almost wanted to call you yest because i didn't realize how those stupid one time use tabs worked. I figured it out but what do you guys use to install those nice and tight? its stupid how you have to hold the tab while pulling on the pin at the same time. Seems counter productive.

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Thanks and yes the M50 fins and the open grill made a huge impact on the front end. Looks so much better now!

I almost wanted to call you yest because i didn't realize how those stupid one time use tabs worked. I figured it out but what do you guys use to install those nice and tight? its stupid how you have to hold the tab while pulling on the pin at the same time. Seems counter productive.

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Alan,

I believe you are talking about the 1 time use plastic rivet.
For that, I uses two pliers with open middle like this.


I put the smooth part against the fender to hold the rivet in place, while use the other one to pull the rod enough until its snapping point.

If you are talking about that locking ring to hold the M50d trim, I uses 8mm deep socket to push the lock ring while holding the trim from the other side.
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Yeah I am talking about the one time use rivet. I did the same thing and it just seems counter productive because you need to use one hand to push up while the other hand is pulling it down. Dumb design.

I did the same thing for the M50D trim. Worked like a charm.

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Okay so I need to purchase the rivets separately when I get the lower grills since to access / install the grill I need to open the wheel well?
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^^Correct.
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very nice Alan, as always!!! cant wait for your write up/install process
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Okay so I need to purchase the rivets separately when I get the lower grills since to access / install the grill I need to open the wheel well?
It is recommended to have more room to work on and less cuts on your hands.

The other 2 ways are:

- Open up the bottom side cover. It is not possible if you have the 50i or the 35d.
- Glue up the trim if you are not changing the open grill. Caution: it may fell off. Some member lost 1 already from using this method.
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Ben,

I'm going to wait for Alan's write up and I will contact you for the grills+BMS stage 1
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I'm going to wait for Alan's write up and I will contact you for the grills+BMS stage 1
Anytime.
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Kzang - I highly suggest you remove the entire fender line if you plan on doing the reflectors and open grills. Order the grills and rivets from Ben and follow IND's DIY on their X5M reflector install. Its pretty much exactly what i did for my car. It is easier on the 35i since both sides is wide open without any additional coolers in that area.

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Thanks Alan!
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Eh I gotta do my reflectors. Putting them off for 4 months haha
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Eh I gotta do my reflectors. Putting them off for 4 months haha
Come on!!! Man up...
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Eh I gotta do my reflectors. Putting them off for 4 months haha
Come on!!! Man up...
Sweet. I'll have four months to be lazy once my reflectors arrive next week.
The grille I'll install right away, but I hate PITA installs due to stupid designs.
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