G05 X5 will be introduced Summer 2018

[deutsch100]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

We have a ML right now, and even the "new" GLE interior is dated with a patch work interior to keep up with technology. But the GLE current model is almost end of life, so that will change soon as well. Excited to see the new GLE and X5 soon...

ML/current GLE has a very dated interior. IMO, the X5 is much better than the current GLE. Although, the GLE has phenomenal HVAC! When the interior of the GLE is hot, and you have the system set to AUTO (like ANY modern car)...the GLE will just P U M P out strong, cold air. The F15 X5 will dribble

[mkdan2004]

I am coming from a 2014 ML 350 Bluetec and i can say that my 2017 X5 2.5D has an equally good HVAC system (at least for the weather in Romania). Other than that, the interior on the X5 is much nicer and the build quality seems significantly better (only time will tell though). The 2 things my MB had that were better than the X5 was the soundproofing and seat comfort.

P.S. That is not the typical weather around here . It actually gets quite hot in summer here.

[DuSh]

Silly me didn't seeing it this all time - it's going to look a lot like a new X3 - same front fascia proportions and details (grill and narrow headlights), same rear trunk proportions. It's going to be same design X1 X3 X5 - and IMHO it's not as aggressive as current x5 (which is already not aggressive enough to my liking). Bottom line is its going to look a bit too civilized

Unless M-Sport package will add some really good appearance (doubtful)

[Tlon]

A nice preliminary photo comparison. I never really liked the look of my F15 -- too fat at the back end -- so I'm looking forward to seeing the new G05:

http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/11/15/ph...vs-f15-bmw-x5/

[admranger]

My lease ends in the summer of 2019. Unfortunately, I'll likely leave BMW at that time due to the crappy dealer near me. I'm going to try another dealer that isn't as convenient. Hopefully they'll convince me to stay with BMW.

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by admranger

My lease ends in the summer of 2019. Unfortunately, I'll likely leave BMW at that time due to the crappy dealer near me. I'm going to try another dealer that isn't as convenient. Hopefully they'll convince me to stay with BMW.

That is an unfortunate reason to leave BMW. Other than sales and annual service, you should not have to interact much; it must be pretty terrible.

[admranger]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

That is an unfortunate reason to leave BMW. Other than sales and annual service, you should not have to interact much; it must be pretty terrible.

Ahhh, I've only exclusively driven BMWs since 1994, it's no big deal. Kinda sealed the deal when they 'lost' the key to my 2011 M3 after having it three days to perform the airbag and electrical cable recall (<2 hours of book time iirc). They did find it in the pocket of a porter's jacket at his house (porter self identified the error, so I applaud him for that).

Besides, my wife is now willing to look at Porsches since we can walk to the dealer...lol I can't see buying one since it's just a harsh commuting environment. Maybe once we leave the area for retirement I'd consider it. Toyota is also within walking distance. Perhaps a nice highlander hybrid will make my commute w/o making me want to barf every time I drive to work.

[puckybadger]

F15 to G05 is a minor refresh similar to the original 1999/2000MY to the refresh for MY2004. MY2007 was a major redo with a minor refresh until another major redo with our F15's for MY2014. Guessing not another major redo until MY2021/2022

[sward]

Originally Posted by puckybadger

F15 to G05 is a minor refresh similar to the original 1999/2000MY to the refresh for MY2004. MY2007 was a major redo with a minor refresh until another major redo with our F15's for MY2014. Guessing not another major redo until MY2021/2022

No. The F15 to G05 is not a minor refresh. There will be no minor refresh of the F15 at all. G05 is a completely new car.

[JsingX5]

Originally Posted by deutsch100

I have to agree with BigKutta! I really believe the X5 has the best drive...and since I have owned Mercedes GLE (ML) and GLS, Lexus suvs and spent time in several Audis (Q5 and Q7)...the X5 is the best overall ride and overall best handling and for sure braking!

But....the interior of the Audi (Q7, Q5 and maybe even Q3) makes the X5 interior feel dated, basic and almost cold. The X5 interior does most things right, but it feels, IMO, older than 2014!

Also, Audi HVAC is light years ahead of BMW..which is funny, since our last 4 Bentleys (Audi/Porsche controlled) had about as bad HVAC as the X5!!

Audi was behind BMW for a long time, the Q5/Q7 was the same car for about 7 model years, now with the refresh yes the interior's make the BMW seem a little dated but they went really bland on the exterior's IMO...thus I'm happy with my 2017 X5 purchase. Audi Virtual Cockpit was a great feature, I had it for about 6 months and do miss it a little. I'm sure the G05 will have something similar.

I'll probably bounce between Audi and BMW the rest of my life as needs/offerings change.