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      11-15-2017, 02:20 PM   #89
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Sat in the new X3 (had already two F15, quite loaded, current 2017 especially) and can say it is surprisingly spacious inside and nicely put together. New tech is pretty amazing. Pros (for me of course): more modern dash, softer basic leather, sunroof seems even bigger, option to have quieter windows (noise insulation), new digital dials and bigger HUD. Against: no split tailgate, less undertrunk space, no comfort seat option, no B&O, no nappa leather dash (at least for now, guessing it will come for X3M). Rear exhaust pipes (round) look way bigger and nicer in real life.
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      11-15-2017, 02:50 PM   #90
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I think it's time I check in after a couple of months of owning my X5. I absolutely love it. I came from a 335i with 430 rwhp so so there are times that I miss the power that the stock N55 doesn't provide. Part of me wishes that I would have gotten the N63 but no regrets other than lack of power. I will get it tuned once I am out of warranty to open her up a bit.

The technology in this car is really good and getting into my wife's 2015 Lexus seems like a huge step backwards when dealing with their infotainment system. The display on the X5 really is a step above many others.
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      11-15-2017, 08:06 PM   #91
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Love the X5. But 3rd row is the option that is disappointing, otherwise everything else is simply great. Having said that X7 will be here by end of the year, or early New year. I spoke to my dealer recently and the guy who test drove a X7 says the 3rd row seating is promising with good headroom and legroom.
I'm also waiting to see what the new X7 will be like.
Guessing the X7 will start in the $80k range for the 6 cylinder and be easily over $100k for the V8.
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      11-19-2017, 12:33 PM   #92
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Overall really like my 2016 X5 S Drive with 14,000 miles. The steering column was replaced under warranty and for some reason just doesn’t feel the same and the steering wheel dips down a little on the left.
I’ll do an alignment when I replace the tires with 20 inch non run flats.
Having said that I may sell it when the warranty is up in a few years. It’s already depreciated around 22K in 22 months.
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      11-26-2017, 12:49 PM   #93
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I have a 2016 X5d and I love it. My previous daily driver was a 335d. The new motor and transmission are a great improvement.
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I have the opportunity to pick up a Cayenne GTS for a very attractive number. For those who cross-shopped any comparison or thoughts? My main issue is the button layout and not having an iDrive/MMI style interface but outside of these features or lack thereof any reason not to go with a Cayenne GTS?
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      12-24-2018, 03:31 AM   #95
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Yes I would! Only the v8 engine
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      12-24-2018, 05:35 AM   #96
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Guess that means you would not buy your X5 again. One thing about Porsche is there technology stinks. As much as I like their cars, can not get over their tech if it is going to be a daily driver.

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I have the opportunity to pick up a Cayenne GTS for a very attractive number. For those who cross-shopped any comparison or thoughts? My main issue is the button layout and not having an iDrive/MMI style interface but outside of these features or lack thereof any reason not to go with a Cayenne GTS?
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      12-24-2018, 07:55 AM   #97
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I would not buy another F15 unless there were substantial discounts but I was prepared to purchase a G05 the other day but when I went in to submit my build I was hit with a wait period that would put my specific build out to April 2019 (tentatively) based on the options and configuration. Ideally I would like to have the family hauler in the garage significantly sooner than that especially for a planned road trip. I then went into talks on a Q8 Prestige "first year" with my friend at Audi but if I do not buy an in-stock unit (which there aren't any "first year" available in our area means my vehicle would not go into production until March. Then there arent any X5M available for another year so long story short I had to speak with other friends who own dealerships and I stumbled across a Cayenne GTS, a full size heavily optioned RRSC and a fully loaded Discovery Lux. Out of the three the Cayenne is the most intriguing only because I never owned one before and is optioned well and they're willing to discount substantially if I buy it before the end of the month.

As far as their tech goes, I agree. Considering the sticker price and being within the VAG family they have all the access they need or want for tech and as I stated earlier their inability to integrate a standard iDrive or MMI style system is peculiar or just stubborn. The Infotainment display in the cluster over a HUD is cute but not as functional or convenient since you have to glance down as opposed to it being projected onto the windshield.
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      12-24-2018, 09:48 AM   #98
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Honestly, I would focus more on the driving experience than the electronics. I say this because no matter what level of technology the car you buy is equipped with, it will eventually be outdated. That said, some manufacturers are never quite able to nail down the driving experience, and try to distract from the issue by highlighting options. I actually think that VAG offers great technology and a fun driving experience; however, after 15 years of driving various VW/Audi models, found myself bored with the brand.

And, yes, I would most-certainly buy my X5 again; best all-round SUV I ever owned.

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      12-24-2018, 01:32 PM   #99
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With a second kid on the way, it's time to get into an SUV. I love my BMW 335i despite the maintenance issues that it has had. I have always thought the fun of driving the car outweighed the issues that came along with it. My 335i has 116k miles on it and it still puts a smile on my face daily. I may sell it, I may hang onto it. That is yet to be seen.

In regards to your X5, do you have any regrets? I have been fighting going with a 4runner LTD over an X5 due to the depreciation being much better and maintenance being cheaper. With that said, I know I will get more enjoyment from the X5. I am looking at a 2014 X5 M Sport (01/2014) build with 41k miles in a couple of hours. Price seems good at $35,700 which is about what a 4runner LTD would cost.
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Hey guys,

With a second kid on the way, it's time to get into an SUV. I love my BMW 335i despite the maintenance issues that it has had. I have always thought the fun of driving the car outweighed the issues that came along with it. My 335i has 116k miles on it and it still puts a smile on my face daily. I may sell it, I may hang onto it. That is yet to be seen.

In regards to your X5, do you have any regrets? I have been fighting going with a 4runner LTD over an X5 due to the depreciation being much better and maintenance being cheaper. With that said, I know I will get more enjoyment from the X5. I am looking at a 2014 X5 M Sport (01/2014) build with 41k miles in a couple of hours. Price seems good at $35,700 which is about what a 4runner LTD would cost.

I too had a 530, when my second child was born I bought a VW Touareg, great car but it's not a BMW. However I've more recently had another baby and bought a seven seater X5.

Great car and loving being back in a BMW. Works well for a family of 5, so I highly recommend.
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      12-24-2018, 01:52 PM   #100
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Honestly, I would focus more on the driving experience than the electronics. I say this because no matter what level of technology the car you buy is equipped with, it will eventually be outdated. That said, some manufacturers are never quite able to nail down the driving experience, and try to distract from the issue by highlighting options. I actually think that VAG offers great technology and a fun driving experience; however, after 15 years of driving various VW/Audi models, found myself bored with the brand.

And, yes, I would most-certainly buy my X5 again; best all-round SUV I ever owned.
True. If its tech you're after, buy a Kia lol.
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      12-24-2018, 02:49 PM   #101
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I always like tech and driving experience. BMW has come a long way in the last 5 years in the tech dept and I think has some of the best tech in the industry, that goes with their driving experience. I like both to enjoy my cars, especially with as much driving as our family does.

Porsche drives well, but there tech is so non current that it makes it a no go for me, unless I was buying it for a true sports car that would not be driven as often.
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      12-24-2018, 03:21 PM   #102
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As of current date/time...YES I WOULD!
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      12-24-2018, 03:26 PM   #103
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Aesthetically speaking, the only comparable vehicles I like are the G550 and Macon S/GTS. I don’t think the G would feel as sporty as the X5, and I don’t think the Macan would have as much room as the X5.
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Sold my 2012 550ix and am driving my 2017 X5 50ix. Much prefer the 5 series on the autobahn. Trying to figure out my next move...
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I have the opportunity to pick up a Cayenne GTS for a very attractive number. For those who cross-shopped any comparison or thoughts? My main issue is the button layout and not having an iDrive/MMI style interface but outside of these features or lack thereof any reason not to go with a Cayenne GTS?
Totally understand where you're coming from but if it were me I would stick with the bimmer for a daily suv. The tech and layout is better than pretty much anything out there as an overall package and the engine and driving experience are top notch. Is the cayenne a better driver than X5? Sure. But i don't think it blows the X5 away and I don't think, as a daily, that it is so much better that it outweighs its shortcomings compared to the X5. Its a shame the G05 is taking you so long cuz to me it's tech is even better than the F15/85 and blows away what Porsche has to offer.
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I would not buy another F15 unless there were substantial discounts but I was prepared to purchase a G05 the other day but when I went in to submit my build I was hit with a wait period that would put my specific build out to April 2019 (tentatively) based on the options and configuration. Ideally I would like to have the family hauler in the garage significantly sooner than that especially for a planned road trip. I then went into talks on a Q8 Prestige "first year" with my friend at Audi but if I do not buy an in-stock unit (which there aren't any "first year" available in our area means my vehicle would not go into production until March. Then there arent any X5M available for another year so long story short I had to speak with other friends who own dealerships and I stumbled across a Cayenne GTS, a full size heavily optioned RRSC and a fully loaded Discovery Lux. Out of the three the Cayenne is the most intriguing only because I never owned one before and is optioned well and they're willing to discount substantially if I buy it before the end of the month.

As far as their tech goes, I agree. Considering the sticker price and being within the VAG family they have all the access they need or want for tech and as I stated earlier their inability to integrate a standard iDrive or MMI style system is peculiar or just stubborn. The Infotainment display in the cluster over a HUD is cute but not as functional or convenient since you have to glance down as opposed to it being projected onto the windshield.
Porsche Cayenne has HUD now as an option (since the release of the new hybrid).

I wanted Porsche Cayenne, fully specced vs fully specced X5 its still like 25k difference. Yes I would buy an X5 again (would try Porsche for sure if itbwas cheaper).
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      12-26-2018, 01:54 PM   #107
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I would buy an X5 again; but might consider the 50i or F85 since I’ve already owned the F15 and F16 with 35i. I love this SAV!
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Yes until the bring the SQ7 to the States.
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That is nice it finally has HUD, but definitely would not pay $25k more for a Cayenne. Definitely not worth it.

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Porsche Cayenne has HUD now as an option (since the release of the new hybrid).

I wanted Porsche Cayenne, fully specced vs fully specced X5 its still like 25k difference. Yes I would buy an X5 again (would try Porsche for sure if itbwas cheaper).
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I just did! Really loved my 2025 x5d and wanted to get into a newer diesel due to the unknown diesel plans for bmwna. Just picked up a 2018 diesel. Couldn’t be happier
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