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How is the current MY infotainment in the SVR? It looks like they took the center stack and infotainment from the Velar and ported it into the current MY Range Rover sport line. Is the touchscreen more responsive? Do they have connected infotainment for up to date POI and voice search? If they added those things in then the SVR may have closed the gap.
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04-19-2018, 02:59 PM | #46 |
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In all fairness having a perspective of more a responsive engine does not mean the poster who said less powerful is lying. We know the engine is around 645ish HP and until recently beat all in a straight. Around the track it does even better which indicates excellent engine response in the right settings.
Technically I would say my SRT Jeep is way more responsive than all...BUT...less power. NA 6.4L guarantees a very predictable instant response. The SVR is amazing though. Love it. |
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04-19-2018, 05:38 PM | #47 | |
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AFAIK the infotainment unit is the same as in the Velar. No idea about the last two questions; guess I'm a Luddite as I rarely use any voice commands. Thinking about it, I probably use only a fraction of the tech available in the X5 as I can't see the point of much of it. |
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04-19-2018, 05:51 PM | #48 |
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went to a land rover dealer to check out the velar in person. dunno what was up with this dealer but many of the new cars on the lot had damage- scrapes, bumper damage, wheel, etc.
beautiful cars.
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Just had the 1 year anniversary for my Black on Black 2017 X5M, and as much as I enjoyed it the answer is unfortunately NO, would not buy again. For the last month, have been driving a family members new VW atlas, and after driving that, thought the beast will feel awesome but in fact it was quite the opposite.
You can't drive the X5m without instantly recognizing how highly engineered and designed for ultra high performance it is and then feeling frustrated about what a waste of ability it is to just use it as a daily driver thudding into potholes, sitting in bumper to bumper traffic, and when the road finally clears, still being faced with speed limits easily reached in 1st and 2nd gear. I had forgotten how smooth and silent "normal" cars are, how light the steering and soothing a nice plush ride is, and how sitting in the never ending traffic of a daily commute is less aggravating psychologically when there isn't 567hp raging to be let loose and you feel are going to waste just idling along (while you burn a gallon of fuel every few miles). I think it depends where you live, the type of roads, traffic, routine and lifestyle, but in my opinion, its too much money to spend on a car that doesn't get to fulfill even 25% of its true potential. Maybe things would be different if I lived in Germany or something. If I were to buy the next gen X5, would probably look at the 35i and preferably option out some comfort tuned air suspension. |
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How? What packages did you order with it?
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Wow - that is a lease rate way beyond anything I have uncovered in my search.
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So, I guess it is all about tradeoffs - my earlier M5 was a blast but did get tiring on 6+ hour road trips - especially with a manual transmission. Car dealers make a mint off our continual search for the vehicle that meets most of our key needs most of the time LOL. |
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This past weekend I had the opportunity to drive a 2018 Range Rover Sport HSE as a rental for 4 days. A couple of thoughts.
1. The RRS needs the V8 to be even manageable on the daily driving department. The V6 isn't even close to enough power for highway merging, or making that left turn in heavy traffic. 2. 20" wheels make the handling poor enough that I wasn't comfortable driving it remotely spiritedly. However, the trade was a super plush and comfortable ride 3. The new center stack (taken from the Velar) is unbelievable and ages beyond the previous tech. The bottom touchscreen and the digital dash rival Audi's virtual cockpit. Being able to have an analog tach, digital speedo, SiriusXM information on the left, and maps/nav on the right all in the dash was amazing. The touchscreen lag is almost entirely gone which is a huge improvement. This is way better than our current gen X5M. Would love to rent a newer gen BMW with the full LCD dash and new center stack to compare. 4. Navigation - was hard to test some things as the rental didn't have the subscriptions for traffic information and online search/data retrieval. Given that, the navigation I found actually useable in this model vs. my 2015 RRS v8 Dynamic with the previous gen infotainment/nav. The OS and user experience are eons better. All that said, BMW is still miles ahead in the infotainment, nav, electronics department. 5. Brakes - the stop well for sure, but the modulation and response is very uneven compared to the BMW. The X5M has a very even application given the amount of pedal travel. The RRS brake pedal is dead for the first 10-25%, then it just grabs hard and stops hard. not great when you have others in the car.
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It was one of the cars we were sad to turn in after the lease was over and the one we put the most miles on.
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What replaced it?
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Currently I am torn, had the vehicle for 9 months so far (2nd owner) and its had multiple problems. None of our other X5's have ever had nearly the problems this vehicle is having. It's nearing 50k miles and end of warranty, I wanted to keep it long term but its seriously making me question if thats a viable option.
Maybe all the gremlins have been worked out. Looking at records the 1st owner didn't have a single problem. If I did leave this vehicle it would probably be for a Land Rover product again.
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On top of the issues and what probably has me the most fed up is the terrible service at my local dealership. If they were really great and made the fixes to the issues painless then I would probably be a completely happy customer, but to put it simply, they suck. The independent shop I use for our older X5 is hands down awesome. Dropped the e70 off the other day for an inspection and the owner drove me home in his e90 M3 instead of ordering me an Uber. So while the vehicle going out of warranty would mean taking it to my independent shop, I certainly don't love the vehicle enough to want to replace another transfer case in it or any other large dollar item. Just doesn't pull my heart strings that hard. For context, our last two e70s, 1st one (3.5i) only had a water pump fail in 100k miles. Current one (5.0i) has 115k miles and has had vacuum lines replaced, front thrust arms and an O ring in the front diff. I've had this X5M for 12k miles.
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Wow, that is quite a lot. Good dealership or bad, that list of issues @ 12k would have me running for the hills as well.
I guess the question is if those are endemic to the X5 M or did you just get a bad build with too many unusual issues? Also, I wonder how many of those issues may have been "engineered out" of the more recent models? |
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Wait and see how the next 10k miles go and decide then but at this moment, I'm undecided. If I am going to have issues to deal with I'd rather have a Land Rover. If they produce the Discovery SVX I will probably change it up.
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My biggest issue right now is simply build quality. I don't have a single panel in my car that doesn't rattle or squeak. Every door trim, dashboard, trunk panels, seats and now steering column. And I totally agree with you on dealer experience. My experience down here in Miami has been very bad and every time I drop off the car they either screw something up or break something (lost wheel locks, scratched bumper, ripped out plastic trim...) Fortunately, I leased this car and I get to give it back in a year and I'm probably going to jump ship to a different brand. |
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I saw the comments about rattles and then one started in the driver's door today
I have 6 months left in my lease. I have liked this car better than most I have had. I would buy the next generation X5M but it won't be available in time. Looking at a new generation Cayenne Turbo... |
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but yes, since demo cars are "never titled", they are more of in a grey area in regards to their history. I wouldn't be surprised if it was demo'd during a car meet. I know one "M Specialized" dealership in CA that regularly put high miles on their BMW individual ordered M cars. The sales claimed that all cars are still brand new even though they have nearly break in miles on them and the cars simply have been to a few local "shows"
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