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F15/X5 50i - Need advice/etc on final service - Issues and Service Response?
A little history, I purchased my x5 used (Non-CPO but still under factory) about a month ago. There were some warranty related issues and covered service work that was required before the bumper/bumper expired.
*Here is where it is at by dates and concerns below that.
Here are some of the issues that concern me and current responses below. There are other issues the car had that are being taken care of and not listed.
There are a couple things that concern me and I would like to hear it from other 50i or similar optioned owners. I have this feeling that some of what I am being told is normal may not be like the seats getting worse to the point where people look at me sideways when I start the car and it slowly grinds around their body (Comfort access/memory). I feel like I should go check the car out and record video/pictures of the issues I am describing sometime this week just in case one of these components fail a day after I pick it up. I expect some of these concerns/issues on a base model Jeep after 4 years but not a 100k MSRP vehicle that was still under warranty as "normally operating". Please, correct me if I am wrong in my assumption.
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If you're in Pittsburgh, what part?
Auto climate doesn't change the seat heater temp, I know my mdx does when set to auto. Also, my auto temp doesn't change the fan speed, the appears to be needed to be changed separately which is very stupid to me. |
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Also, while the fan speed should vary in auto, you still need to set the maximum fan speed. The fan will vary from low to whatever maximum fan speed you have set, as needed. BMW does some weird engineering things. To verify if this is working, next time you start X after a long sit, turn the temp to auto, roll up the temperature and turn the fan to max. If working correctly, the fan should stay on low and automatically adjust upwards as the vehicle warms up and heat is available. My seat bolsters make no noise and operate continuously as long as the button is pressed. I get about 15-16mpg with a 80/20 city/highway mix, mostly in comfort and I like the gas pedal.
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Most of that sounds like problems you have with the car and not problems the car has. It's a twin turbo v8, gas mileage on mine averages 18-19. It's cold out and current gas is likely still winter blend, so may get slightly better towards summer. Yes, the side bolsters go... eeeeeeeerrrrrr as they clamp down and tighten up. No big deal. Likely the type of mechanism necessary to squeeze the seat. If your 160 lbs then they have to move pretty far to squeeze you. I do think they should just stay squeezed instead of doing it everytime you get in, but they do that for easy entry/exit likely.
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Headlight washers do not work everytime. They wash the headlights once after 3 times you spray the windshield in a short period of time. If you listen, you can hear the motor running and see spray over the hood when they come on. Try it in the driveway.
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Yeah, I knew that the seats were separate even with the comfort option. I did figure out the fan speed w/ auto about 2 weeks into ownership but it still seems to not reach or continuously maintain those temperatures. When I get it back I think I will use my infrared and physical thermometer to measure the temps vs what the car says it is. Quote:
The seat bolsters are annoyingly loud and definitely required some "finessing". I'll have to keep driving it more to let the car learn me I guess. I know there is a section with stats on fuel economy per mode (Eco/Comfort/Sport). I don't think it resets after every trip, which may contribute to my overall. Quote:
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What I will do is physically go there this week and record a video of the seats operating when the vehicle is turned on/adjusting and share it instead of trying to explain the sounds via text lol. I think when you hear it, you'll agree it doesn't sound "normal". This car has almost every option, i.e. B&O and the constant knocking of the roof and grinding of both front seats sounds are really ruining it for me and guest/family/friends/coworkers. I'll let them know again tomorrow I am concerned with the sound/behavior even though they convinced me for a short while it was normal. I hope they make it right and kill those sounds. To be continued!
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OP your car is 4 years old. Parts will age. Sensors will go out of sync. Unless broken or really out of sync by a lot, dealer won't do anything.
I had to make it such a big deal to have them fix a loud rattle in the driver door on my last service on the 750. Had to get the GM of the dealership involved. For a car that had retailed for over 100k, I told them I wasn't coming back and would want them to give me a printout that said customer reported xxx problems and no problems were found by the dealership, because if it breaks down 2 months later, I will have proof that I did report it and decline paying for diagnosis atleast. Same thing with a broken parking sensor that went on beeping everytime it rained, and there was no way to test so they just brushed me off. Etc. Etc.
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New Vehicle Limited Warranty: Limited coverage for defects in materials and workmanship for 4 years/50,000 miles from the original in-service date, whichever comes first. Repairs will only be made at authorized BMW SAV centers using Original BMW Parts. ------------------------------------------------------------- So far, I've been pretty optimistic/positive overall with the service and really don't have anything negative to mention other than they are super busy but that's business! I have requested that they do a review of each issue/consult with me prior to closing the work order since its the last 4yr/50k service on the car. I am assuming I will get a printout/receipt of everything discussed/checked off when I pick it up. I'll also do a walk around video on the car/condition of electronics/components including the seats when I pick it up which I hope will not include the seat crying out or rattling. I really hope they fix the seat and rattling, I don't want to escalate or go above anyone on my first service visit . So did you ever get your issues resolved via the dealer or indy or yourself? Did you parts/components ever fail? How long ago was the incident? Thanks!
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I usually again will get the dealer to acknowledge all the issues on the paperwork, and have been able to go back and have them fix things when they actually break and show them the paperwork saying I told you this was going bad (parking sensor finally on constant alarm on a rainy day, drove in, showed the SA, I paid for part and labor ~$200, this 5 months later). Others I will DIY and some things I'll leave for the indy.
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