Looking for a ZDH car, will it show up as 'ZDH' on a VIN checker?

[c63er]

So im using http://www.bmwvin.com to check options on the prospective cars, and I see nothing with ZDH anywhere. Either its rare (definitly possible) or I'm looking for the wrong thing. Will ZDH actually show up in the VIN options list as separate items (eg. 2VM) ? Anyone have an idea?

If anyone actually has a ZDH maybee you could try populating your VIN onto the site and see how it lists ZDH?

This would be super helpful, as I just cannot find a car with this

Thanks!

[SlammedR8]

I don't know what ZDH is, but if a vehicle is equipped with it, it should certainly show up when you check the VIN

[BitteEinBit]

No, ZDH does not show up on the VIN checker. Mine shows the components of ZDH:

2VM Adaptive Suspension Package Comfort (which is: Dynamic Damper + rear axel suspension)
2VP Adaptive Suspension Package Dynamic (which is: Dynamic Performance Control+ARS)

[c63er]

Originally Posted by BitteEinBit

No, ZDH does not show up on the VIN checker. Mine shows the components of ZDH:

2VM Adaptive Suspension Package Comfort (which is: Dynamic Damper + rear axel suspension)
2VP Adaptive Suspension Package Dynamic (which is: Dynamic Performance Control+ARS)

Thanks much. So in this list you are seeing 2VM and 2VP at the top somewhere next to 2VB right?

I dont think anyone within 100 miles of me has ordered ZDH. I've VIN checked 96 cars (my arms hurt

Thanks again!

[Kzang]

DHP / ZDH will be very hard to find on the dealers lot, unless a customer ordered and for some reason refused delivery. It's such an expensive option and it drives up the price of the car which drives away customers.

[c63er]

Originally Posted by Kzang

DHP / ZDH will be very hard to find on the dealers lot, unless a customer ordered and for some reason refused delivery. It's such an expensive option and it drives up the price of the car which drives away customers.

Seems that way, Im actually looking at the used market right now, but its just totally scarce ... Only us enthusiasts are getting it clearly

[Kzang]

Correct.. because frankly the average joe schmoe expects BMW to handle right out of the factory with basic suspension and/or most buyers are moms who care less about handling or sportiness and more about BMW badge. I would suggest hitting the owners classified... http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=516 sometimes there are great deals there with DHP

[BitteEinBit]

@c63er Yes, near the top of the options list, right under 2VB.

[P1]

I can honestly tell you it'll be tough to find that option when scanning VINs. I just recently bought an F15, and of all the M Sports I ran VINs of, not a single one came back even with 2VF even though it's only a $900 option...

ZDH is going to be even tougher. That means you'll be scanning for 2VM, 2VP and 7SZ. That was still a $3,600 option on top of ordering M Sport. For non M Sport, it would be $4,500. Pricey!

[F15GorDe]

My F15 has DHP, but through the VIN check it sees it as this:

Order options
No. Description
2TB SPORT AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

2T6 19"M LT/ALY WHEELS DOUBLE SP. 467M

2VB TYRE PRESSURE INDICATOR

2VF ADAPTIV M SUSPENSION

2VP ADAPTIVE SUSPENSION PACKAGE DYNAMIC

245 STEERING COLUMN ADJUSTMENT ELEC

248 STEERING WHEEL HEATING

3AG BACKUP CAMERA

3DZ WITHOUT ADDITIONAL DESIGNATION OUTS

3MC IND.ROOF RAILS HIGH-GLOSS SHADOW L

300 EMERGENCY WHEEL

319 INTEGRATED UNIVERSAL REMOTE CONTROL

322 COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM

323 SOFT CLOSE AUTOMATIC SYSTEM FOR DOORS

337 M SPORT PACKAGE

4AC FINE-WOOD TRIM POPLAR GRAIN

4FF COMFORT SEATS IN REAR

4NB AUT.AIR CONDITIONING 4-ZONE CONTROL

4U1 CERAMIC EMBELLISHER FOR CONTROLS

420 SUN PROTECTION GLAZING

423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR

430 INT/EXT RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE

441 SMOKERS PACKAGE

456 COMFORT SEATS, ELECTRIC. ADJUSTABLE

488 LUMBAR SUPPORT DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

493 STORAGE COMPARTMENT PACKAGE

494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

496 SEAT HEATING FOR REAR SEATS

5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL

5AG LANE CHANGE WARNING

5AP DECODING FOR NO-DAZZLE HIGH-BEAM AS

5AT DRIVING ASSISTANT PLUS

5A1 LED-FOG LIGHTS

5DL SURROUND VIEW

502 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM

508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC)

552 ADAPTIVE LED HEADLIGHT

563 LIGHTS PACKAGE

575 ADDITIONAL 12V POWER SOCKET

6AC INTELLIGENT EMERGENCY CALL

6AE TELESERVICES

6AK CONNECTEDDRIVE SERVICES

6AM REAL TIME TRAFFIC INFORMATION

6AN CONCIERGE SERVICES

6AP REMOTE SERVICES

6NS ENHANCED TELEPHONY WITH EXTENDED SM

6UK NIGHT VISION WITH OBJECT RECOGNITION

609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL

610 HEAD UP DISPLAY

655 SATELLITE RADIO

688 HARMAN/KARDON SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM

697 AREA-CODE 1

7S8 INTERIEURDESIGN PURE EXPERIENCE IN

710 M LEATHER STEERING WHEEL

715 M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE

760 INDIVIDUAL HIGH-GLOSS SATIN CHROME

775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE

8KL OELSERVICEINT. 15.000KM/11MONTHS

8S4 DECODING VARIABLE LIGHT DISTRIBUTIO

8TH SPEED LIMIT INFO

8TN DAYTIME DRIVING LIGHTS SELECTABLE B

9AA EXTERNAL SKIN PROTECTION




Series options
No. Description
212 NATIONAL BRAKE SYSTEM EQUIPMENT

258 RUNFLAT TYRES

302 ALARM SYSTEM

402 PANORAMA GLASS ROOF

645 RADIO CONTROL US

8SL PREPARATION FOR TRAILER TOW HITCH

8SM VIN, VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE

823 HOT CLIMATE VERSION

845 ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING

853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH

992 NUMBER PLATE ATTACHEMENT MANAGEMENT



No reference to anything other than 2VF.

[Kzang]

5th down... 2VP ADAPTIVE SUSPENSION PACKAGE DYNAMIC

[F15GorDe]

Originally Posted by Kzang

5th down... 2VP ADAPTIVE SUSPENSION PACKAGE DYNAMIC

Correct.

[c63er]

Thanks so much everyone, this has been very enlightening to say the least. I finally found one car (used) that has it, car is priced @ 70k for a 50i. Right now there are no 35i's with this combo, it seems like noone got these packages on the 35. Pretty rare if you are one of the few with it

[jiggz]

Originally Posted by c63er

Thanks so much everyone, this has been very enlightening to say the least. I finally found one car (used) that has it, car is priced @ 70k for a 50i. Right now there are no 35i's with this combo, it seems like noone got these packages on the 35. Pretty rare if you are one of the few with it :thumbs:

I found a few in the past few days on BMWUSA.com/CPO page...maybe we saw that same one?

Both 2015 50i's, one MW and the other BSM. I feel like I saw a few others too, but yes definitely rare.

[P1]

Let me ask everyone this: imagine there are three F15s. The first one has regular suspension. The second has Adaptive M Suspension (2VF) and the third one has the Dynamic Handling Package (ZDH).

If all three cars are in "Comfort" mode, would all three handle the same? Would two of the three handle the same? Would they all three handle differently? Again, I'm specifically talking Comfort mode.

[c63er]

Originally Posted by jiggz

I found a few in the past few days on BMWUSA.com/CPO page...maybe we saw that same one?

Both 2015 50i's, one MW and the other BSM. I feel like I saw a few others too, but yes definitely rare.

Yea Im sure we are seeing the same vehicles. Im personally looking for a 35i, so its a waiting game for now

[c63er]

Originally Posted by P1et

Let me ask everyone this: imagine there are three F15s. The first one has regular suspension. The second has Adaptive M Suspension (2VF) and the third one has the Dynamic Handling Package (ZDH).

If all three cars are in "Comfort" mode, would all three handle the same? Would two of the three handle the same? Would they all three handle differently? Again, I'm specifically talking Comfort mode.

Im using this chart for help with that question. Of course the sportiness/comfort charts seem to mirror the cost of the option , so do take it with a grain of salt, nevertheless its some kind of guidance



http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=913797

[F15GorDe]

All three would handle differently.
The margin of difference between stock and just 2VF would be very noticeable. The gap between 2VF and DHP becomes very apparent with larger loads and/or more spirited driving.
It would not be obvious if all that you did was slow speed stop and go traffic around town.
First time you really notice the difference is at that off ramp you find yourself being very wary off, because you drive a vehicle with a higher center of gravity, but the BMW DHP greatly reduces the sensation that the drivetrain is going one way while the body might go another. That IS eliminated!
For a 2 1/2 ton vehicle to feel this nimble can be deceptive. I have to always remember that you CAN'T overcome simple physics.

Oh, in the future ALL purchases of new vehicles will have the DHP option included in our fleet.

[P1]

Originally Posted by F15GorDe

All three would handle differently.
The margin of difference between stock and just 2VF would be very noticeable. The gap between 2VF and DHP becomes very apparent with larger loads and/or more spirited driving.
It would not be obvious if all that you did was slow speed stop and go traffic around town.
First time you really notice the difference is at that off ramp you find yourself being very wary off, because you drive a vehicle with a higher center of gravity, but the BMW DHP greatly reduces the sensation that the drivetrain is going one way while the body might go another. That IS eliminated!
For a 2 1/2 ton vehicle to feel this nimble can be deceptive. I have to always remember that you CAN'T overcome simple physics.

Oh, in the future ALL purchases of new vehicles will have the DHP option included in our fleet.

They would all handle different, even with the cars being in Comfort mode? I ask because I was under the impression that the suspension only becomes engaged once you switch to Sport or Sport+.

[F15GorDe]

Originally Posted by P1et

They would all handle different, even with the cars being in Comfort mode? I ask because I was under the impression that the suspension only becomes engaged once you switch to Sport or Sport+.

ARS and air suspension are always active no matter what mode you are in.
Changing modes will modify parameters of the respective components of whatever options you have.

[98PoleCat]

I recently purchased a used 2015. I was fortunately in the position to not have to make a purchase on any specific timeline, so I was able to wait until the right car became available at the right price.

Based on my test drives, I decided I wanted an X5 with DHP (ZHP). I set up keyword searches on both cars.com and autotrader.com and used bmwarchive.org to verify the results. I also checked the CPO listings on bmwusa.com at least daily and directly contacted used car managers at BMW dealers in Dallas, Denver, Chicago, Charlotte, OKC, and Tampa (I live in KC). It was time-consuming, but it ultimately helped me find what I wanted.

You're running into what I did - that DHP is a rare option. However, there are X5s out there that have it. You just have to be willing to wait until one in your price range is available. When it is, don't wait, because it will go fast. The one I ended up with was the fourth one that I tried to make a deposit on - the previous three sold minutes before I called with my credit card info.

Hang in there. You'll find what you're looking for. Don't settle just because you get impatient.

[wearenh]

When I was shopping I was lucky enough to find one with 2VF on a dealer's lot and was
able to drive the std suspension against 2VF ... then, despite the dealer's recommendation
that I wouldn't notice the difference between 2VF and ZDH, I ordered the ZDH anyway!!