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      06-28-2015, 09:57 PM   #23
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If you can financially afford the X5M go for it or settle for the X5 50i.

The BMW does not make the most reliable V8 engines. Especially with the power they deliver no wonder why the 50i model BMW's depreciate so much since the repair bill is double of what it is for the usual inline 6's.

Since OP didn't say he was financing or buying out right that's my overall opinion
If reliability is such a high priority for you, perhaps you should buy Japanese. I find it funny people bring up this V8 issue like they can already see it happening lol. It's a German car, I6 and V8 what not.

As for OP, you can afford it by all mean go for X5m. 50i is plenty fast for me as a family hauler and I prefer something light and agile like the M3 for fun.
I do own a 35i
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      06-28-2015, 10:58 PM   #24
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If the budget allows go for the X5M. Its better in every way possible.

Those still wondering if the N63 issues are real...just go spend some time on the 5, 6, and 7 series forums as well as the 50i E70. The N63TU in the F15 isn't all that different of a motor and some of the issues are there.
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assuming you can afford both, for me its simple--do you need 3rd row seats? then you need 5.0. if not x5m.

if you don't need the extra trunk space, change to x6 5.0 vs x6m
Don't need the 3rd row but definitely need good cargo space.

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Having owned both a 2015 X6 and now a 2015 X6M the M is surprisingly much better. Besides speed, it handles much better and is quite light on its feet for such a heavy car.

The "regular 50i is a wonderful SAV but still has more of a SUV type feel. The X6M is astounding in its dynamics. Leave it in M and its a blast. Alos for me the HUD with the tachometer is fantastic, they should offer it the regular X5/X6. BTW for some reason you get a conventional gauge setup on X6M vs a digital LCD.
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If reliability is such a high priority for you, perhaps you should buy Japanese. I find it funny people bring up this V8 issue like they can already see it happening lol. It's a German car, I6 and V8 what not.

As for OP, you can afford it by all mean go for X5m. 50i is plenty fast for me as a family hauler and I prefer something light and agile like the M3 for fun.
I would probably go the same way but I refuse to park anything on the street even though I live in a somewhat safe neighborhood.

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If the budget allows go for the X5M. Its better in every way possible.

Those still wondering if the N63 issues are real...just go spend some time on the 5, 6, and 7 series forums as well as the 50i E70. The N63TU in the F15 isn't all that different of a motor and some of the issues are there.
I have read a lot about the N63 issues - what issues linger in the N63TU? I haven't seen a lot of negative feedback yet regarding this engine.
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Not enough miles on the n63tu to tell if it's got the same issues. The recent bulletin issued by BMW requiring a battery change at each oil change interval applied to both engines though (n63 and n63tu).
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Not enough miles on the n63tu to tell if it's got the same issues. The recent bulletin issued by BMW requiring a battery change at each oil change interval applied to both engines though (n63 and n63tu).
And also the X5 with N55 35i and N57 35d require the same battery change interval as well. Something to do with BMW's efficient dynamic charging of the battery in all their recent engines may not fully charge the battery under certain driving conditions...
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V8 issues. My 750 was riddled with them so we traded it in for a S class a while back. Don't trust bmw V8's
never had 'v8 problems' in my m3. X5M to x35i is the same as M3 comparing with 335i. As a family SUV i prefer x35d
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V8 issues. My 750 was riddled with them so we traded it in for a S class a while back. Don't trust bmw V8's
never had 'v8 problems' in my m3. X5M to x35i is the same as M3 comparing with 335i. As a family SUV i prefer x35d
Your V8 M3 was a NA model, not the turbocharged v8 n63 or n63tu engine in the x5. The V8 M3 was bulletproof and widely thought of as one of the most reliable engines. Those days are gone
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Your V8 M3 was a NA model, not the turbocharged v8 n63 or n63tu engine in the x5. The V8 M3 was bulletproof and widely thought of as one of the most reliable engines. Those days are gone
Thanks and it's a reason I still keep it! I even tried to exchange my m3 for x5M hoping to have sport car and SUV in one - didn't work at all because x5M is not driving as a sport car.
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This is my second 50i my first being a 2012. That said, I did have an option of going to a X5M but frankly the difference in price vs. the 50i could not be justified in my opinion. True, you can get a better handling package out of a X5M and more horses also, but in my world, tenths of a second don't mean that much as well as seeing how many g's I can get this vehicle too. If I wanted a killer handling vehicle with horses, I probably wouldn't get a 50i 0r an X5M. To each his own, but I really like the power and response out of the vehicle and who knows, if I want more power, there are plenty of "chip" companies I can choose from, but like any other high performance vehicle, you need a warranty once you past the factory one!
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V8 issues. My 750 was riddled with them so we traded it in for a S class a while back. Don't trust bmw V8's
never had 'v8 problems' in my m3. X5M to x35i is the same as M3 comparing with 335i. As a family SUV i prefer x35d
Again it's not turbo charged, the NA is far more bulletproof than the turbo gasoline motors. I.E the E9x 325/328's are farrrrrrrrr more reliable than the 335's. Therefore the N55 is more reliable than the N63 that was in my 750. Still has its flaws but not as many
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If I had a choice between a 50i and a M, it's X5 M all day. yes, you can tune and modify the 50i and get similar power but I would rather pay more and get a proper M car. It's kinda like comparing any other cars in the bmw lineup. 550i or a M5? I wouldn't even consider the 550i and go for the M5.
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As for me, comfort seats which you can install in 5.0i are much more comfortable than 4 MA Multifunctional seats in x5m. But 5.0i has n63tu engine and n63 series has not so good reputation in terms of reliability.
So... nothing ideal. I think in Europe M50D is the optimal choice to go now. Just my 2 cents.

P.S. In Europe standard seats on X5M are Sport seats. As for me, they are more comfortable than 4 MA Multifunctional seats, although Сomfort seats are still better.

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Thanks and it's a reason I still keep it! I even tried to exchange my m3 for x5M hoping to have sport car and SUV in one - didn't work at all because x5M is not driving as a sport car.
So what did you end up with? Have E92 M3 and 08 Pathfinder,Pathfinder needs replacing. X5.0 vs Cayenne GTS vs JGC SRT.
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So what did you end up with? Have E92 M3 and 08 Pathfinder,Pathfinder needs replacing. X5.0 vs Cayenne GTS vs JGC SRT.
Price aside, Cayenne GTS all day long. Great combination of drive quality, power, and brand cachet.
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      11-14-2016, 09:43 AM   #37
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One other thing to note, if you are leasing, the residual on the M is the same as the 50i. That is a pretty good incentive to get the M.
Not if you're planning to turn the vehicle in at the end.
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Not sure if anyone cares, but as the OP of this thread, I ended up getting an Audi RS7. It had enough cargo room for my current needs but had a bit more speed. I still like to peruse these forums though just to keep up on things.
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      11-16-2016, 01:57 PM   #39
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Not sure if anyone cares, but as the OP of this thread, I ended up getting an Audi RS7. It had enough cargo room for my current needs but had a bit more speed. I still like to peruse these forums though just to keep up on things.
Earlier this year I was trying to decide between an 2013/2014 Audi S7 and a 650ix gran coupe. I chose a CPO650, it was nicely loaded and a better price...but I have been disappointed with some problems with the drivetrain and it has been at the dealer for 3 weeks now.

I am in an X5 35i and like the fit, and am considering a move, but would like more power so am considering a 50i or M...but concerned about encountering the same drivetrain problems.

I would move back to an Audi (long time Audi owner), but the Audi Q5/7 appear under-powered compared to the BMW options.
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      12-02-2016, 11:51 AM   #41
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The X5M does not have adaptive cruise control, which is something that I enjoy using quite a bit. Also, the tires are not run-flat, which means there's a spare tire underneath the trunk so you will not have storage space there.
I have a 2016 X5 50i with DHP and active steering, etc. I also have the active (or is it adaptive?) cruise control ("ACC") and I love it. I agree with Stunnaz that I really enjoy and I use it every day. It is too bad the X5M is not available with that feature and I wonder why.

Although I have run flats, I opted for the spare tire option just for peace of mind.

There is another option that is not available on the X5M, and that is ceramic controls. To be candid, I really like the look and feel of ceramic controls. The shifter (although an M shifter and transmission), the iDrive controller, and the knobs on the radio and climate control on the X5M just don't have that same elegant look. I think this is just something else to consider when comparing the two vehicles.

For me, the 50i has plenty of power. I think I would have to wear a helmet if I drove the X5M!
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