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      03-04-2016, 10:45 PM   #23
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Meh. I have anti-dazzle LEDs on the 740 and xenon on the X5. The advantages are fairly minor. If you're whittling dollars, it's a good place to save $1900.
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Meh. I have anti-dazzle LEDs on the 740 and xenon on the X5. The advantages are fairly minor. If you're whittling dollars, it's a good place to save $1900.
I could be wrong but... unless you coded your car, I believe anti-dazzle is decoded in the US due to DOT regulations.
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Its worth it if you get coded for anti dazzle. I have them and while they are slightly brighter then my xenon's on the M3 not hugely so that you can notice this crazy difference.

You will notice it once its coded though, I drove a coded car and its WOW.

I also like the looks better of the LED.

If you never plan on getting them coded though dont spend the $1900, except for appearance you will not notice the difference.
So tell me about coding the headlights. I've seen several references to doing this but I'm not sure of the how and why (I did not code the headlights on my previous X5).
This video will tell you all you need to know about Anti Dazzle.

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I could be wrong but... unless you coded your car, I believe anti-dazzle is decoded in the US due to DOT regulations.
I did have it done. They make it clear that it is deactivated when you buy. Says clearly on the monroney "de-coding for anti-dazzle." It sounds as though it was a bit trickier on the new Idrive. I don't know enough about it to say if that's true or not.

Sadly that was all part of an unexpected trip to the dealer for an issue with the display key.
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I did have it done. They make it clear that it is deactivated when you buy. Says clearly on the monroney "de-coding for anti-dazzle." It sounds as though it was a bit trickier on the new Idrive. I don't know enough about it to say if that's true or not.

Sadly that was all part of an unexpected trip to the dealer for an issue with the display key.
So, you can have the same LED capabilities in the US like the Europeans by coding the anti-dazzle feature? That would certainly make it worth getting. It was my only issue with getting the LED because I thought I couldnt get the full functionality

What is the approximate cost to get it coded?
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What is the approximate cost to get it coded?
It's free if you are willing to do it yourself. Might require buying a cable.
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So, you can have the same LED capabilities in the US like the Europeans by coding the anti-dazzle feature? That would certainly make it worth getting. It was my only issue with getting the LED because I thought I couldnt get the full functionality

What is the approximate cost to get it coded?
It was free for me, but I'm not deep into coding. Sort of a one-off side deal. Others will know better.
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Personally, i like the looks of the bi xenon. They are bright enough. Downside is that you don't get the LED turn signal which i replaced for weisslicht led bulbs.
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I ultimately decided to go with the lighting package and ordered it as part of my new vehicle option list.

Thanks for all the opinions and comments.

Regarding the coding issue, a questions arises. Is it "illegal" to have the coding done so the anti-dazzle feature is operational?
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I ultimately decided to go with the lighting package and ordered it as part of my new vehicle option list.

Thanks for all the opinions and comments.

Regarding the coding issue, a questions arises. Is it "illegal" to have the coding done so the anti-dazzle feature is operational?
According to DOT no. Would any cop ever even know your lights are illegal, probably not and I doubt they would ever give you a ticket.
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According to DOT no. Would any cop ever even know your lights are illegal, probably not and I doubt they would ever give you a ticket.
Well, if it doesn't dazzle anyone, who would complain? No issues I'd suppose
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I know you already ordered, but I have had both LED (now) and Xenon (prior) - both are GREAT - LED is about 15% brighter, and has a nice design. As others have mentioned, unless you get the coding done its really not worth the $2000. The Xenons are fantastic and produce plenty of light.

As others have said, I would opt for other options before ticking the box on LEDs.

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I had Xenons w/ adaptive lighting in my E53 and loved it. Kept them in the F15 and still love 'em. Look beautiful, not outdated, and plenty bright. I have no issues manually switching high beams (or shifting MTs, or checking my own side/rear mirrors). I buy BMWs to drive them, not just "ride in them".

I predict that auto dimming will become another repair headache over time for some owners. Plenty of electronic wiring, chips & cameras for point-of-failures.

If you are leasing and enamored by all the new gizmos, then go for it! I bought mine, and have plenty of other uses for $1,900.

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Well, if it doesn't dazzle anyone, who would complain? No issues I'd suppose
So why is the anti-dazzle decoded for the US market?
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So why is the anti-dazzle decoded for the US market?
Not approved by DOT yet!!
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Not approved by DOT yet!!
I wonder why?
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I had Xenons w/ adaptive lighting in my E53 and loved it. Kept them in the F15 and still love 'em. Look beautiful, not outdated, and plenty bright. I have no issues manually switching high beams (or shifting MTs, or checking my own side/rear mirrors). I buy BMWs to drive them, not just "ride in them".

I predict that auto dimming will become another repair headache over time for some owners. Plenty of electronic wiring, chips & cameras for point-of-failures.

If you are leasing and enamored by all the new gizmos, then go for it! I bought mine, and have plenty of other uses for $1,900.

Cheers,
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Yeah, I buy BMWs to "drive" them too, and hence keep them 8+ years, so for me getting the technology right is important. While I have used and loved Xenon for 15 years, BMW is now screwing us by including auto-high beam with LEDs only. While its not a big deal for most, it is for me as we do a lot of back road night driving and I am constantly using the stalk, while trying to steer on curved roads. And I am pretty sure the high beam stalk is not a performance enhancing feature! I'd much rather have both hands firmly on the wheel. I also think LEDs are the future (well no, as its been here for a while), and the headlights will be even past LEDs by the time I am done with this car so having updated tech is important to me.

Likewise I dont need the Driver Assist features, and if I was the only driver, would never get that stuff. But my wife drives the kids every where so I guess I'll get them.
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I know you already ordered, but I have had both LED (now) and Xenon (prior) - both are GREAT - LED is about 15% brighter, and has a nice design. As others have mentioned, unless you get the coding done its really not worth the $2000. The Xenons are fantastic and produce plenty of light.

As others have said, I would opt for other options before ticking the box on LEDs.

Good luck and enjoy your car!
No, I haven't ordered yet. No Diesels available!! I think I'll go with the LEDs
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I wonder why?
Probably because we are slow in advancement For example Europe and other countries have had CC with a chip for many years and we just recently started to convert to them
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Probably because we are slow in advancement For example Europe and other countries have had CC with a chip for many years and we just recently started to convert to them
Please excuse my ignorance but what is "CC with a chip"?
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oh wow! you can get the anti-dazzle coded in?? I'm definitely going to get this done now.
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oh wow! you can get the anti-dazzle coded in?? I'm definitely going to get this done now.
I had it done, it's pretty wild actually. The LED's are impressive in cottage country where it's really dark, no street lights at all. I never once got flashed by oncoming traffic. I like how the system tracks the car in front with a shadow box, I used it with my friend driving in front he said not blinding him at all.
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