PHOTO TEASER: Dinan F8x X5M/X6M Intake

[sos_73]

Any News about this intake???

[gizmo958]

looks good bro , any carbon bits always add abit of zazz , so i like it .
unfortunatly for me i live in the uk and have never come across anyone who supplys dinan bits and or tunes......... :-( unless you know of anybody??

i always was interested in the stage 1 map

[Dinan_Engineering]

Originally Posted by sos_73

Any News about this intake???

Test car came in about a week ago to get everything installed and is currently undergoing field testing / endurance testing. There is another thread started on that one.

Originally Posted by gizmo958

looks good bro , any carbon bits always add abit of zazz , so i like it .
unfortunatly for me i live in the uk and have never come across anyone who supplys dinan bits and or tunes......... :-( unless you know of anybody??

i always was interested in the stage 1 map

No direct dealers in the UK but there are plenty of distributors that will ship internationally on the DINANTRONICS and other associated goods if desired. We can also ship direct if you like but to be honest our international rates leave a lot to be desired so I recommend going through a distributor.

[joe@ptech]

I've been testing about 250 miles now, a mix of highway, city and 2 launches and the car has been flawless without any issues. This is all on 91 octance too.

[scotty91ss]

I guess this intake is taking months instead of weeks.
-Supplier issues?
-testing is not getting the hp / torque that were hoping for?
-costs to build is too high?

Anybody hear anything?




DISCLAIMER (PLEASE READ): This post is strictly intended to be a photo teaser. No details are available at this time. Don't bother asking price, availability (although I think its safe to say we can talk in terms of weeks and not months at this point), pre-order details, performance gains, or any of that type of information as it is not available.

[Dinan_Engineering]

Originally Posted by scotty91ss

I guess this intake is taking months instead of weeks.
-Supplier issues?
-testing is not getting the hp / torque that were hoping for?
-costs to build is too high?

Anybody hear anything?




DISCLAIMER (PLEASE READ): This post is strictly intended to be a photo teaser. No details are available at this time. Don't bother asking price, availability (although I think its safe to say we can talk in terms of weeks and not months at this point), pre-order details, performance gains, or any of that type of information as it is not available.

Lol yeah. Guess I spoke too soon. There were some slight tweaks that needed to be made to the first CF mold so it sealed correctly. Minor but it set us back about a month or so with the new mold.

Right now building up stock on the CF so when released we can actually satiate the volume we expect. Problem is carbon production is INCREDIBLY slow. Learned our lesson with the exhaust on the platform so don't want to have the same ordeal on the intake where we have great demand but not initial units and a back order runs rampant.

At present looking like a mid-late October release. Want it out before SEMA.

[scotty91ss]

cool, thanks for the quick reply.
I hate adding bolt ons before winter. Will probably have to buy it immediately and then install it in the spring, then enjoy the horsepower increase.

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by scotty91ss

cool, thanks for the quick reply.
I hate adding bolt ons before winter. Will probably have to buy it immediately and then install it in the spring, then enjoy the horsepower increase.

These Dinan do look great, nice CF touch to the engine bay and will sound slightly better than stock (essentially BMC filters with a CF cover to the OEM box). However, never upgrade intakes on any high performance car to expect a noticeable increase (maybe 2-5HP, but no one can "feel" 1% increase in power). Just be happy after market intakes won't lose power. Power gains should "NOT" be the only reason why you should spend $1,500+ on intakes. Cheaper HP with other upgrades.

Great job on R&D Dinan. Will look amazing.

[LBBX5M]

I believe this bolt-on will be like an extra accessory to complete a certain look. I know some people on the forum mentioned that they tend to stay away from CF.

If what i said did not make sense, Think of its as the pair of Fendi shoes that looks good with a clutch bag that your significant other once told you that they match nicely

I know I would love one... but then i will have to check if I still have to buy that shoe first to make sure there won't be a sh*t storm coming my way

[scotty91ss]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

These Dinan do look great, nice CF touch to the engine bay and will sound slightly better than stock (essentially BMC filters with a CF cover to the OEM box). However, never upgrade intakes on any high performance car to expect a noticeable increase (maybe 2-5HP, but no one can "feel" 1% increase in power). Just be happy after market intakes won't lose power. Power gains should "NOT" be the only reason why you should spend $1,500+ on intakes. Cheaper HP with other upgrades.

Great job on R&D Dinan. Will look amazing.

I have been racing for over 25 years now and know that a single bolt on does work as well as a combination of bolt ons. I have a tune and catless down pipes, waiting to do the full exhaust when I get the air cleaners, as I want more air in before I need to let more air out. If I was to buy a CF air assembly just because of the looks, I would then have to drive with a removed hood. Why would I spend the money on something that no one sees?

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by scotty91ss

I have been racing for over 25 years now and know that a single bolt on does work as well as a combination of bolt ons. I have a tune and catless down pipes, waiting to do the full exhaust when I get the air cleaners, as I want more air in before I need to let more air out. If I was to buy a CF air assembly just because of the looks, I would then have to drive with a removed hood. Why would I spend the money on something that no one sees?

That's one man's opinion, but 99% of X5M owners don't track their cars and some want good looking and sounding intake sounds. The hood does open at Cars and Coffee and "wow" BMW service tech when they change the oil. So yes, some got money to burn just for look.

Agree that just intake won't do much, but a series of mods will capitalize on the investment.

[AlexLou1222]

I'm pretty sure the filters won't fit the stock box ... it's slightly larger?

[onfireX5]

It's all about eliminating pressure drop. We use a digital manometer and tap the inlet of the air filter element. Then make a dyno hit (not the best ) or a 1/4mile pass and log the pressure drop. If you do not have any pd, it does not matter what you bolt on, it's for aesthetics only. If you have pd and can eliminate it you will increase power. All depends on how much drop you have.

[Dinan_Engineering]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

These Dinan do look great, nice CF touch to the engine bay and will sound slightly better than stock (essentially BMC filters with a CF cover to the OEM box). However, never upgrade intakes on any high performance car to expect a noticeable increase (maybe 2-5HP, but no one can "feel" 1% increase in power). Just be happy after market intakes won't lose power. Power gains should "NOT" be the only reason why you should spend $1,500+ on intakes. Cheaper HP with other upgrades.

Great job on R&D Dinan. Will look amazing.

A bit of an over simplification on the comparison but the X5M intake is a bit harder to put into a "box" compared to your traditional intakes. To be honest I am surprised BMC even offers a filter for the thing given its unique stock design. That said all they are doing is taking the stock filters and changing from paper to an oiled design. Dinan's filters are larger and designed differently then stock so more surface area, and thus air, can be ingested at any given time. Its still an intake for a turbo charged engine so its not making some huge change or anything but there's a bit more thought into it then just a CF lid with BMC filters. =)

As I have stated before I would be shocked if anyone else bothered to tackle the intake system on this vehicle given its uniqueness. Its too far different from the norm.

Originally Posted by AlexLou1222

I'm pretty sure the filters won't fit the stock box ... it's slightly larger?

Correct. The Dinan filters would not fit in the stock box. The filters without the lid on them (an open design) throws codes all over the place so that is a non-starter as well.

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by Dinan_Engineering

A bit of an over simplification on the comparison but the X5M intake is a bit harder to put into a "box" compared to your traditional intakes. To be honest I am surprised BMC even offers a filter for the thing given its unique stock design. That said all they are doing is taking the stock filters and changing from paper to an oiled design. Dinan's filters are larger and designed differently then stock so more surface area, and thus air, can be ingested at any given time. Its still an intake for a turbo charged engine so its not making some huge change or anything but there's a bit more thought into it then just a CF lid with BMC filters. =)

As I have stated before I would be shocked if anyone else bothered to tackle the intake system on this vehicle given its uniqueness. Its too far different from the norm.

Thanks for the clarification that this kit will come with larger filters and box.

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by Dinan_Engineering

The filters without the lid on them (an open design) throws codes all over the place so that is a non-starter as well.

This is interesting information. There goes the idea of just slapping on two aftermarket cone filters without the factory box in place idea that some people were thinking about.

The F10 M5 guys have been doing this without any issue so its surprising that you are saying the X5M can't run the same setup.

Alan

[Dinan_Engineering]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

This is interesting information. There goes the idea of just slapping on two aftermarket cone filters without the factory box in place idea that some people were thinking about.

The F10 M5 guys have been doing this without any issue so its surprising that you are saying the X5M can't run the same setup.

Alan

Has more to do with how the AMM's work on this particular setup then anything. As I said, its unique.

[JNoSol]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

This is interesting information. There goes the idea of just slapping on two aftermarket cone filters without the factory box in place idea that some people were thinking about.

The F10 M5 guys have been doing this without any issue so its surprising that you are saying the X5M can't run the same setup.

Alan

The placement of the X5M filters wouldn't allow an open intake design w/o heat soak issues. It's directly above the radiators, direct blast of hot air vs M5 filters are on the sides (away from significant heat source). There's also no room for MSR type of design either.

[m5james]

Heatsoak isn't an issue at all as I've touched these while sitting at idle as ambient air is flowing through them. They will get hot to the touch once I shut the engine off, but once moving and watching IAT's on the Torque app, the pipes return to ambient quickly. Most N54 intakes put the filters directly above the engine between the intake manifold and shock tower. BMS has done testing for their dual cone intake and has shown that intercooling makes the heat soak irrelevant, so point is I'm not concerned and it sounds awesome, much like MSR...something you'll never get with an enclosed box design.

P.S. - this intake routing is a duplicate of the factory BMW routing used on the 4.8 engines. If anything, a big box is going to hold more hot air as heat rises vs a couple tubes.

[AlexLou1222]

Will the water goes in the filter if placed right behind the grills as above? Rainy day?

[m5james]

Everyone at some point resorts to this question. If the filter was low down and behind the bumper, you went into a puddle at full speed and didn't let off the gas, then you'd have a valid concern. Seeing as at most all you're getting is water spray (water injection is based solely on water spray) the odds of damaging water ingestion are slim to none. Nevertheless I do have K&N water socks overtop the B&M filters I'm running. I live in Seattle where it rains 9+ months outta the year, I drive my X5M (twin turbo), 740iL6, 328 and Harley F150 (supercharged)...all of which have an exposed cold air filter of some type, all of which I drive hard and haven't had anything happen in years.

[gizmo958]

if only we had dinan in the uk ;-(