These are some expensive SAV's!!!

[turboawd]

Originally Posted by tkelley86

Bridgestone Dueler H/P Sport All Season's

You don't seem to pay attention well. You don't have all seasons.

[spike5150]

Originally Posted by tkelley86

Bridgestone Dueler H/P Sport All Season's

Unfortunately those are not All Season Tires.

BRIDGESTONE
DUELER H/P SPORT RFT
Street/Sport Truck Summer
Front: 275/40R20 106W XL
Star RSC BMW, Run Flat
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 106W
UTQG: 300 A A

The only all seasons available in the stock 20" tire sizes are Continental DWS06, which are NOT run-flats, but can still be used - just get a spare tire kit.

I hope you get some appropriate tires ASAP for your safety and those around you.

[tkelley86]

FML, they are not all seasons. Post updated. As an aside, after the accident I immediately ordered a set of winter wheels with winter tires (really, they are winter tires) from Detroit Wheel and Tire. For under 2K I got an OEM take off set.

[iconoclast]

end result is positive. you learned a lesson that only cost you money and inconvenience instead of a life or physical damage to others or yourself. so in the grand scheme of things repairing a vehicle is a small price to pay for what you now consider a valuable lesson. lesson learned, life goes on. i hope your newly repaired and properly equipped X5 gives you many miles of smiles.

[tkelley86]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

end result is positive. you learned a lesson that only cost you money and inconvenience instead of a life or physical damage to others or yourself. so in the grand scheme of things repairing a vehicle is a small price to pay for what you now consider a valuable lesson. lesson learned, life goes on. i hope your newly repaired and properly equipped X5 gives you many miles of smiles.

appreciate the positivity, it's been a rough couple of months with a REALLY nasty eviction (me being the property owner) and mistakes have unfortunately been popping up left and right; lesson learned is right

[iconoclast]

at the risk of overstepping my boundaries i am going to volunteer some advice... i do not know how old you are or where you are in life but you find that you learn more from your mistakes than anything else.

[P1]

Originally Posted by CeeTeeX5

I think he just wanted to let us know he's a baller with the Raptor and Phantom

He does mention them a lot

[menelaos]

Originally Posted by tkelley86

appreciate the positivity, it's been a rough couple of months with a REALLY nasty eviction (me being the property owner) and mistakes have unfortunately been popping up left and right; lesson learned is right

We all hit rough patches in life......take care!

[perry8912]

Originally Posted by spike5150

Unfortunately those are not All Season Tires.

BRIDGESTONE
DUELER H/P SPORT RFT
Street/Sport Truck Summer
Front: 275/40R20 106W XL
Star RSC BMW, Run Flat
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 106W
UTQG: 300 A A

The only all seasons available in the stock 20" tire sizes are Continental DWS06, which are NOT run-flats, but can still be used - just get a spare tire kit.

I hope you get some appropriate tires ASAP for your safety and those around you.

To be honest, I thought those were all season tires too!!!
Until one of my coworkers called me crazy after he saw me driving it during snow season....

I have no idea why they sell Msport vehicles equipped with summer tires in winter time!!
I think BMW should reconsider it especially in Canada!!!

[Silververtu]

I wish BMW has winter wheel set combo as an option (lower cost, of course) when you order the car.

[iconoclast]

They do. The sales person is supposed to recommend or mention it and if not them then the F&I Manager usually does.

[P1]

Try driving around in sub 32F temperatures with Pilot Super Sports. Good times!

[CeeTeeX5]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

They do. The sales person is supposed to recommend or mention it and if not them then the F&I Manager usually does.

They aren't doing a good job of that unfortunately. I even asked and they said all-seasons. I should have know better than that. Oh well, I swapped them out for DWS06 and plan to just put the Pzeros back on before trade or sale.

[iconoclast]

Ridiculous because it's an easy sell at that point and a win for the customer/client since they can get it cheaper than over the parts counter. Around here the F&I manager offered it on any vehicle I purchased through a high line dealer that was equipped with summer or high performance tires.

[CeeTeeX5]

Yup, totally agree. I was planning on getting 22s for the summer and using the 20s for winter and if they offered to sell me a set of all seasons or winter tires at a discount I would have jumped on it for sure.

[Kzang]

You have no idea how many Msport owners are driving around with summers. They swear up and down that bmw sucks in the snow too. The problem is the clueless buyers / owners it's not BMW's fault.

[mkdan2004]

I have to agree. You pay a lot of money for an expensive and supposedly practical vehicle, you might as well pay attention to the tires you use. There a lot of marketing tricks every car maker uses to make us buy their products like Xdrive, Quattro, 4Matic etc, but the most important part when driving in poor weather conditions is the actual tires used.
In my country, it is illegal to drive on roads covered in snow without winter or at least very good all season tires. If you get caught using improper tires, the fine is quite significant and the police can even withdraw the car driving authorization ( i am sure that is not the correct phrase) which means your are not allowed to drive that car until you prove that you have proper tires on the vehicle.
I guess it was a more expensive lesson but it is good that it was learned.

[geye1970]

There really is no reason why these SUVs come with summer tires.

[iconoclast]

There are plenty of reasons why especially from a brand that prides itself on being a driver's car (despite having watered down versions currently of it's sporting past). Anyone who purchases a vehicle with the "sport" package is going to want the sporting feel and handling and you're not getting that with bogus all-season tires that do not perform well in any season.

This is an All-Season tire:


Its cheap, comfortable, old men wear them all year around and they feel it is formal and casual at the same time. It sucks 100% of the time.

This is a Summer high performance tire:


It only has one purpose... to get the most out of the vehicle at a certain time.

This is a Winter tire:


It is made from materials for a specific function in specific temperatures, conditions and only has two purposes. Traction and satisfaction.

This is the garbage you seen on 24"+ wheels:


Would you wear a flip flop or a running shoe in a snow storm? Probably not, so why would you put that on a several ton vehicle that travels at high rates of speed in a snow storm or on ice roads?

[fromkrypton]

Completely agree. In Québec from December 15 to March 15 winter tires are mandatory. They need to have the snow flake sign on the sidewall

[iconoclast]

Many regions outside of the US have strict regulations on proper tires for the seasons. Unfortunately in the land of litigation this is some how overlooked. All the Governing and legislation is done under the guise of safety when in reality it is to mitigate legal risk or revenue generation. When there are real issues about safety it goes unnoticed or unresolved but this is a whole'nother topic in itself.

[tkelley86]

Originally Posted by Kdawg1966

OP, sorry to hear of the "incident". I too have made mistakes in judgment in the past and have actually been the at-fault party in an accident before. It's possible that I could find myself in that position in the future. I can only hope that those around me at the time will be a little more kind and graceful than a couple of the responses you received here. Kudo's to you for thinking on your feet and letting the pole take the hit rather than the unsuspecting drivers ahead of you.

Yeah what a chaotic winter it's been in New England, glad it's behind me now!