Sport Auto - New X6M is as fast as the E9x M3 around the Nurburgring

[E90M3JETS]

Originally Posted by crooked I

it's not all about the power. the previous generation X6 M had 555 HP and lapped much slower than the previous generation M3. the new X6 M has about 15 HP more and like stated above can lap the ring as fast as the M3.

which means that a lot of work was done to the chassis to achieve that time

I disagree. Power to weight and tires are the main drivers here. That's all.

[spuntyb]

Mall Crawlers and Red Light Racers rejoice!

[Armen383]

Originally Posted by raypeter

but no one has ever gotten up early on a sunday morning and said, i think i'll take my 2 tonne truck for a punt up a windy road............ EVER

[wdeerfield]

This thing is a monster and I dream the day of being able to own one. I think it looks amazing, its loud, in your face and has a presence. Cant wait to see what the tuners do to bring it closer to the ground and put 305s up front and 345s out back. black out that license plate bar and the front is done for me!

[Matski]

Originally Posted by Asbjorn

Lets not forget they also switched from older RFTs to PSS non-RFTs and slightly increased the tire width. Given my experience replacing the factory RFTs on my Z4 this could very well be the most important factor here.

Unladen DIN weight is 2265kg for the new X6M
Unladen DIN weight is 2305kg for the old X6M

According to the press releases, I know weights can be given to different standards, but the new X6 should be lighter than the old one.

edit: You might be mixing your horsepowers too. According to the press releases if you say the old one is 555hp, then the new one is 575hp (408kW vs. 423kW)

[B-1Pilot]

I took my M5 CP around the 'ring 3 times. While it was exhilirating, I found very little from that experience translated to my day to day driving for the next 8000 miles, no matter how spirited.

On the otherhand, there were many opportunities where all-wheel drive and 567 HP could have been used. I find the X5M an intruiging proposition until the GXX M5 comes out with AWD. My perfect car would be an AWD M5 wagon, but that just doesnt exist... the M5 sedan is awesome in its current configuration, but the X5M is a close second I think.... decisions, decisions on the next car.

[Jklad]

Originally Posted by TN_3

Agree 100%. I just don't get why people get so upset when a manufacturer creates a car/SUV like this...they should be happy that a car company wants to produce as many high performance variants as they can. Just means more choices for all enthusiasts. No one says you have to buy it.

It's cool that they do this, but why not also try and fit the lighter cars some of these bigger engines?? Eg the 1m could have had the v8 from the m3, I'll bet the upcoming 2m could have had the m4 twin turbo instead of a souped up n55, while the old m3/m4 cars could fit a twin turbo v8. Why not use these bigger bruiser engines in the smaller lighter cars, engineering them so they fit? It's like they save the real power for the bigger more expensive vehicles.

[AndreyATC]

Originally Posted by kyleb350

Don't forget 50 ft lbs more of torque.

And don't forget, it's now has new 8-speed auto with better tuning
And new X6 is a bit lighter
Oh, and Michelins PSS are lightyears ahead of Bridgestone Dulers RFTs

[e92proper]

Does it really matter how fast this thing does the Nurburgring? Anybody interested in tracking a BMW is not buying any SUV or crossover or whatever this is.

[VMRWheels]

Wow, definitely impressive

[vladberca]

The dynamic capabilities of the car are shown somehow with the 'ring time. For sure the M4 (better in GTS form) is the M car for the track. I'm curious how close to Cayenne will be, performance wise ☺

[m-ch]

Originally Posted by Boss330

The RR Sport SVR has the official fastest SUV time according to Sport Auto.

RR Sport SVR - 8:14
BMW X6M - 8:24 (previous gen)
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S - 8:33,99

http://www.sportauto.de/marken/news/...e-8498293.html

To keep it in petspective you quoted the fitst generation cayenne turbo s. This time i think comes from the sportauto compairo x6 m vs cayenne turbo s from 2010 or 2011. cayenne turbo s new Generation was only on sale January 2013.

I do think the new cayenne turbo s is already faster by Miles than the new Rr Sport on the Ring

[Judge Dredd]

can we please remember we're talking about SUVs so none of this matters anyway?

[chris82]

This is most impressive. I feel like the COG of the X6M is lower than we think? That and the Nurburgring is definitely an HP track. I mean it does have a lot of long straights.

But I think we're also missing something here. Lets say you're in an M3 and some other guy is in an X6M, there's no way the X6M will match you in a turn. Weighing less and it having a lower COG, it just cannot be possible the X6M will out brake or hold more Gs in that turn! So I don't think there is anything to be afraid of here people

What I really want to see is a video comparison on the Nurburgring of the X6M vs the E9x M3; now that would be entertaining!

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Chrisar82

This is most impressive. I feel like the COG of the X6M is lower than we think? That and the Nurburgring is definitely an HP track. I mean it does have a lot of long straights.

But I think we're also missing something here. Lets say you're in an M3 and some other guy is in an X6M, there's no way the X6M will match you in a turn. Weighing less and it having a lower COG, it just cannot be possible the X6M will out brake or hold more Gs in that turn! So I don't think there is anything to be afraid of here people

What I really want to see is a video comparison on the Nurburgring of the X6M vs the E9x M3; now that would be entertaining!

Agree.

When Sport Auto does their Supertest, they provide a lap chart with sector times on the 5 sectors as well as 18 different points on the track where speed, g-force and acceleration is given. That should be a good base to compare the two cars relative performance on different parts of the track.

[Asbjorn]

Originally Posted by Matski

Unladen DIN weight is 2265kg for the new X6M
Unladen DIN weight is 2305kg for the old X6M

According to the press releases, I know weights can be given to different standards, but the new X6 should be lighter than the old one.

edit: You might be mixing your horsepowers too. According to the press releases if you say the old one is 555hp, then the new one is 575hp (408kW vs. 423kW)

Many thanks for the corrections. Here is an updated one