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      06-10-2022, 08:00 AM   #23
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As a follow-up, we completed our consumption test and the engine used .1 liters in 1300 miles. They said normal use was 1 liter in 750 miles.

This gives me a little more assurance and will just have to keep topping it off as normal. We're patiently waiting for the LCI 50e to swap this thing out later next year.
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As a follow-up, we completed our consumption test and the engine used .1 liters in 1300 miles. They said normal use was 1 liter in 750 miles.

This gives me a little more assurance and will just have to keep topping it off as normal. We're patiently waiting for the LCI 50e to swap this thing out later next year.
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As a follow-up, we completed our consumption test and the engine used .1 liters in 1300 miles. They said normal use was 1 liter in 750 miles.

This gives me a little more assurance and will just have to keep topping it off as normal. We're patiently waiting for the LCI 50e to swap this thing out later next year.
Few litres of oil can take you far off
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We received the first low oil light yesterday. We bought the '18 CPO w/ 13k miles back in end of Dec '21 and just passed 16k. I pinged our dealership this morning for the consumption test.

I really just want to hang on to this thing till the LCI comes out next year.
I got it once and never again. Also 2018 50i CPO. I just keep a quart of oil in the trunk but only used it once in 13K miles. I do the usual 10K recommended oil change.
10k is way too long to wait on a 50i for an oil change…
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We received the first low oil light yesterday. We bought the '18 CPO w/ 13k miles back in end of Dec '21 and just passed 16k. I pinged our dealership this morning for the consumption test.

I really just want to hang on to this thing till the LCI comes out next year.
I got it once and never again. Also 2018 50i CPO. I just keep a quart of oil in the trunk but only used it once in 13K miles. I do the usual 10K recommended oil change.
10k is way too long to wait on a 50i for an oil change…
Not necessarily true. Depends on your driving style. Plenty of new documentation and data out there with the new oils manufacturers are making that are in deed allowing for these extended oil intervals. Not saying there is anything wrong with peace of mind in changing it more often but the era of changing every 6 months or 3k miles for just normal driving is gone.

With that said I change mine in my M5 every 5k miles as I still get dealer oil at 10k miles and I drive the hell out of it. But I change our X5 50i around 7k-10k. My wife drives it now and only puts on less than 10k a year. But when I drove it I changed closer to every 5k. Not that I'm a shining example of what anyone "shoulda" do. Lol
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We received the first low oil light yesterday. We bought the '18 CPO w/ 13k miles back in end of Dec '21 and just passed 16k. I pinged our dealership this morning for the consumption test.

I really just want to hang on to this thing till the LCI comes out next year.
I got it once and never again. Also 2018 50i CPO. I just keep a quart of oil in the trunk but only used it once in 13K miles. I do the usual 10K recommended oil change.
10k is way too long to wait on a 50i for an oil change…
Not necessarily true. Depends on your driving style. Plenty of new documentation and data out there with the new oils manufacturers are making that are in deed allowing for these extended oil intervals. Not saying there is anything wrong with peace of mind in changing it more often but the era of changing every 6 months or 3k miles for just normal driving is gone.

With that said I change mine in my M5 every 5k miles as I still get dealer oil at 10k miles and I drive the hell out of it. But I change our X5 50i around 7k-10k. My wife drives it now and only puts on less than 10k a year. But when I drove it I changed closer to every 5k. Not that I'm a shining example of what anyone "shoulda" do. Lol
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We received the first low oil light yesterday. We bought the '18 CPO w/ 13k miles back in end of Dec '21 and just passed 16k. I pinged our dealership this morning for the consumption test.

I really just want to hang on to this thing till the LCI comes out next year.
I got it once and never again. Also 2018 50i CPO. I just keep a quart of oil in the trunk but only used it once in 13K miles. I do the usual 10K recommended oil change.
10k is way too long to wait on a 50i for an oil change…
Not necessarily true. Depends on your driving style. Plenty of new documentation and data out there with the new oils manufacturers are making that are in deed allowing for these extended oil intervals. Not saying there is anything wrong with peace of mind in changing it more often but the era of changing every 6 months or 3k miles for just normal driving is gone.

With that said I change mine in my M5 every 5k miles as I still get dealer oil at 10k miles and I drive the hell out of it. But I change our X5 50i around 7k-10k. My wife drives it now and only puts on less than 10k a year. But when I drove it I changed closer to every 5k. Not that I'm a shining example of what anyone "shoulda" do. Lol

So then do 10k oil changes lol nobody will stop you. Any bmw specialist will tell you otherwise. The dealer doesn't care about you.

Basic requirements for our cars are oil changes. They love them.
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We received the first low oil light yesterday. We bought the '18 CPO w/ 13k miles back in end of Dec '21 and just passed 16k. I pinged our dealership this morning for the consumption test.

I really just want to hang on to this thing till the LCI comes out next year.
I got it once and never again. Also 2018 50i CPO. I just keep a quart of oil in the trunk but only used it once in 13K miles. I do the usual 10K recommended oil change.
10k is way too long to wait on a 50i for an oil change…
Not necessarily true. Depends on your driving style. Plenty of new documentation and data out there with the new oils manufacturers are making that are in deed allowing for these extended oil intervals. Not saying there is anything wrong with peace of mind in changing it more often but the era of changing every 6 months or 3k miles for just normal driving is gone.

With that said I change mine in my M5 every 5k miles as I still get dealer oil at 10k miles and I drive the hell out of it. But I change our X5 50i around 7k-10k. My wife drives it now and only puts on less than 10k a year. But when I drove it I changed closer to every 5k. Not that I'm a shining example of what anyone "shoulda" do. Lol
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We received the first low oil light yesterday. We bought the '18 CPO w/ 13k miles back in end of Dec '21 and just passed 16k. I pinged our dealership this morning for the consumption test.

I really just want to hang on to this thing till the LCI comes out next year.
I got it once and never again. Also 2018 50i CPO. I just keep a quart of oil in the trunk but only used it once in 13K miles. I do the usual 10K recommended oil change.
10k is way too long to wait on a 50i for an oil change…
Not necessarily true. Depends on your driving style. Plenty of new documentation and data out there with the new oils manufacturers are making that are in deed allowing for these extended oil intervals. Not saying there is anything wrong with peace of mind in changing it more often but the era of changing every 6 months or 3k miles for just normal driving is gone.

With that said I change mine in my M5 every 5k miles as I still get dealer oil at 10k miles and I drive the hell out of it. But I change our X5 50i around 7k-10k. My wife drives it now and only puts on less than 10k a year. But when I drove it I changed closer to every 5k. Not that I'm a shining example of what anyone "shoulda" do. Lol

So then do 10k oil changes lol nobody will stop you. Any bmw specialist will tell you otherwise. The dealer doesn't care about you.

Basic requirements for our cars are oil changes. They love them.
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I have recently taken my 2016 X5 50i in for an oil consumption test to understand if my engine is susceptible to excessive oil consumption, per the recent class action lawsuit mentioned a few times on this forum. For those just tuning in, search the forums and also check this isley website. In my experience with the car thus far, it's required about 2 quarts of oil in about 2K miles of driving.

Oil Consumption Test - How it Works
The test requires you to go to the BMW dealership, where they will replace the oil and measure (I assume very specifically) the amount of oil in the engine. They give you the vehicle back, ask you to drive it 750-800 miles (no more than 1000), and reschedule another appointment so they can re-measure the oil level. The test is free, per the lawsuit, if your vehicle is a part of it.

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What's not clear to me is what would be defined as "in spec", per this lawsuit. I've taken my car to a BMW dealership for the oil consumption test, and while I wouldn't expect them to outright lie about the amount of oil consumed, per BMW, the "normal" amount of oil consumed can be rather high.

Additionally, does anyone know why type of driving conditions might consume more or less oil? I'm not trying to cheat the test, but my car definitely drinks oil, and if I 'just pass' the test, I'd be pretty disappointed that BMW isn't willing to fix the issue.

Finally, has anyone actually gone through the entire process, with a vehicle impacted by this lawsuit, and either had a result that required an engine repair (or replacement), or had an oil consumption test that did NOT find the car was consuming enough oil to qualify for a repair? I would like to know your experience.

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Hey any update on the process? Did the car fail?
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Hi Community -

I have recently taken my 2016 X5 50i in for an oil consumption test to understand if my engine is susceptible to excessive oil consumption, per the recent class action lawsuit mentioned a few times on this forum. For those just tuning in, search the forums and also check this isley website. In my experience with the car thus far, it's required about 2 quarts of oil in about 2K miles of driving.

Oil Consumption Test - How it Works
The test requires you to go to the BMW dealership, where they will replace the oil and measure (I assume very specifically) the amount of oil in the engine. They give you the vehicle back, ask you to drive it 750-800 miles (no more than 1000), and reschedule another appointment so they can re-measure the oil level. The test is free, per the lawsuit, if your vehicle is a part of it.

Test Questions
What's not clear to me is what would be defined as "in spec", per this lawsuit. I've taken my car to a BMW dealership for the oil consumption test, and while I wouldn't expect them to outright lie about the amount of oil consumed, per BMW, the "normal" amount of oil consumed can be rather high.

Additionally, does anyone know why type of driving conditions might consume more or less oil? I'm not trying to cheat the test, but my car definitely drinks oil, and if I 'just pass' the test, I'd be pretty disappointed that BMW isn't willing to fix the issue.

Finally, has anyone actually gone through the entire process, with a vehicle impacted by this lawsuit, and either had a result that required an engine repair (or replacement), or had an oil consumption test that did NOT find the car was consuming enough oil to qualify for a repair? I would like to know your experience.

Thank you!
Hey any update on the process? Did the car fail?
My car passed the oil consumption test, I believe it "only" consumed about .5 liters in the 1000 mile test, so it was within spec…
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My car passed the oil consumption test, I believe it "only" consumed about .5 liters in the 1000 mile test, so it was within spec…
Okay. I failed a test before. It consumed 1.2L in the 1000 mile test. Apparently that’s within spec. 1.33 is where it’s out of spec. I just did another 1000 miles for a 2nd test. I’m bringing it in tomorrow morning to be measured.
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Checking in on folks' status with the class settlement -- has anyone received feedback on their claim... a responsive letter, reimbursement check, voucher for BMW purchase, etc.?
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So do they do a full oil change too or just fill it up to spec and send you on your way?
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Oil consumption test

Are they still doing the oil consumption test? I have a 2014 X5 50i. I parked my BMW in 2019 at 90,000 miles because I was sick of dealing with the BMW service departments in the Milwaukee, WI area. I purchased it in 2014 for $85,000 and went in on several occasions to tell them the oil light was coming on before it should have, only to have the guys in the service department tell me “you do not need to keep coming in to the dealership just put more oil in it”. Needless to say that was my last BMW purchase. I have a friend and he keeps telling me to take it in for the oil consumption test because I could get a new engine but I’m torn because my BMW service visits have been terrible. The new X5 is gorgeous but I refuse to buy another BMW because of our local BMW service departments.
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Contemplating buying a low mileage (40k) '15 X50i -- doing some home work -- came across the settlement. Is there anything that can be done in a PPI to check health?
Also the www.isleysettlement.com web page is down. -- Is there an alternate web page?
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Its all explained on the settlement website here:
https://www.isleysettlement.com/?page_id=967
They can try repair but if fails the test it will be replaced.
Does anyone know if BMW will attempt the repair before suggesting engine replacement, at no cost?

It's not clear in the settlement page. It says "After one failed Oil Consumption Test of a Class Vehicle, and confirmation by an authorized BMW
Center that the Class Vehicle has an oil consumption issue, BMW NA will, at its discretion, either
authorize the BMW Center to make one engine repair attempt or offer customer an engine
replacement per paragraph (c) below.


It's crystal clear that Engine replacement will set me back 60%, but it's not clear if there is a cost for the attempt to repair by BMW. I think there isn't a cost as there's no mention of this, however there is also no mention of it being at no cost.

Does anyone have experience with the attempted repair?
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Our ‘13 F10 was slurping 2.5 liters in less than 1k miles. After authorizing repair/replace it took 4 separate repair visits to finally fix the issue. Am at +60k miles and now can go 7k miles (my change interval) without having to top off between changes.

I continue to be amazed by how many people don’t use the services of Blackstone Labs for understanding how to determine the exact change interval based on your unique driving circumstances. It’s the best $40 investment you can make.
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I failed the consumption test back in Oct with 113k on my 2016 X5 50i. Unfortunately I didn’t learn about the settlement agreement until just before that time (my Indy shop informed me after I spend a good bit $ changing out the crankcase hoses). I had been adding oil well before that…not sure when it would have officially failed but certainly at a point where mileage would have been much lower….and lower mileage = lower out of pocket $ for engine replacement. Anyway, what’s done is done and the X5 is currently at Rockville BMW having the engine replaced. My contribution will be $11650 (75%). Not happy but I exhausted all other options, including contacting BMW NA on several occasions…..no customer loyalty provisions whatsoever. This is my 6th BMW and perhaps my last one. Engine replacement at 114K and owner responsible for 75% is unacceptable. Anyway, wanted to post on this old threat (surprised not more here) in the event I can be of assistance to anyone else in this situation.
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I failed the consumption test back in Oct with 113k on my 2016 X5 50i. Unfortunately I didn’t learn about the settlement agreement until just before that time (my Indy shop informed me after I spend a good bit $ changing out the crankcase hoses). I had been adding oil well before that…not sure when it would have officially failed but certainly at a point where mileage would have been much lower….and lower mileage = lower out of pocket $ for engine replacement. Anyway, what’s done is done and the X5 is currently at Rockville BMW having the engine replaced. My contribution will be $11650 (75%). Not happy but I exhausted all other options, including contacting BMW NA on several occasions…..no customer loyalty provisions whatsoever. This is my 6th BMW and perhaps my last one. Engine replacement at 114K and owner responsible for 75% is unacceptable. Anyway, wanted to post on this old threat (surprised not more here) in the event I can be of assistance to anyone else in this situation.
Why replace the engine - did it fail completely? I just bring some extra oil with me and top off as needed…
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Why replace the engine - did it fail completely? I just bring some extra oil with me and top off as needed…
Agree, why spend all that money for a problem that's not terminal on a high-mileage car?

You can:
1) spend the $ on a high mileage, fully depreciated car. Aka, you can expect to 20% of this money back, maybe less.
2) continue to drive it as you always have and just sell it whenever you want. Only out a few hundred dollars for the life of the car.

The engine doesn't fail unless you run it low on oil. Even if you do that, you'd have to spend that money then, not now.
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Agree, why spend all that money for a problem that's not terminal on a high-mileage car?

You can:
1) spend the $ on a high mileage, fully depreciated car. Aka, you can expect to 20% of this money back, maybe less.
2) continue to drive it as you always have and just sell it whenever you want. Only out a few hundred dollars for the life of the car.

The engine doesn't fail unless you run it low on oil. Even if you do that, you'd have to spend that money then, not now.
Yeah, I understand this position and I strongly considered just continuing to drive and fill the oil. There had been a pretty rapid consumption over the last 5-10k miles and assumed it was getting to the point of being quite an inconvenience given this is my wife’s daily driver. Add in that the rest of vehicle is perfect, replacement to another vehicle would cost me significantly more $, and piece of mind of getting additional BMW warranty on the engine ultimately led to this difficult decision. Cost (with 25% discount) was not much different from indy shops and just felt more comfortable doing it with BMW. Time will tell if it was right/wrong decision but we plan on keeping the car for several years once we get it back - it’s now been at BMW Rockville for 3 weeks.
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has anyone got their engine replaced for in-service date being over 10 years but under 100k miles? Just curious as I am looking at a few potential 750s in the 60k miles range.
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