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      11-12-2018, 05:17 PM   #265
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That's faster than Dinan Stage2 in X5M haha!
True! But then again Dinan is a weakest tune out there I think BM3 is very strong. I'm still going to squeeze most out of my BPC tune. Fight is not over yet

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Maybe a little bit off topic. Will BM3 have thanks giving sale ?
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Maybe a little bit off topic. Will BM3 have thanks giving sale ?
I think so. I met a vendor on a facebook page that already sells BM3 at a discount. He's going to let me know when they get the Black Friday deals.
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Maybe a little bit off topic. Will BM3 have thanks giving sale ?
I think so. I met a vendor on a facebook page that already sells BM3 at a discount. He's going to let me know when they get the Black Friday deals.
Please let me know or pm me when you find out. Interested in getting one with deal
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For those who have gone with BM3, can you confirm for me if the basic license includes all OTS maps or will I need to buy the map pack, too?
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For those who have gone with BM3, can you confirm for me if the basic license includes all OTS maps or will I need to buy the map pack, too?
The basic license includes One OTS map for your platform. So you can choose Stage 1 or Stage 2.

For the $150 map pack, you gain access to all maps available for your vehicle.

*edit* If you're looking to buy, there are Black Friday deals out there for BM3 right now.
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The basic license includes One OTS map for your platform. So you can choose Stage 1 or Stage 2.

For the $150 map pack, you gain access to all maps available for your vehicle.

*edit* If you're looking to buy, there are Black Friday deals out there for BM3 right now.
So if I buy the license, and choose a Stage 1 91 map, then want to try the 93 map, I would need to buy the map pack?
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Hopefully someone answers Rotzy question. Meanwhile I'm just wondering if you get only 1 map - would getting 93 map be a better decision as I know 93 map can adapt to lower octane, within limits of course, but difference between 91 and 93 is not that much - so adapting to 91 shouldn't be a big problem? Not sure about it.
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Hopefully someone answers Rotzy question. Meanwhile I'm just wondering if you get only 1 map - would getting 93 map be a better decision as I know 93 map can adapt to lower octane, within limits of course, but difference between 91 and 93 is not that much - so adapting to 91 shouldn't be a big problem? Not sure about it.
I am looking for a bit of a safety buffer on my motor, and was thinking about running a 91 map even though I use 93. But, I would like access to try it, and want to know if I have to pay the additional $150.
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I am looking for a bit of a safety buffer on my motor, and was thinking about running a 91 map even though I use 93. But, I would like access to try it, and want to know if I have to pay the additional $150.
Yeah, that's a option too, to have some safety margin.
A bit off-topic. I've heard different facts from BM3 group. Some say even if you buy used license you get to chose 1 OTS map - which can be your 91 map in this case. Others say if you buy used license you don't get ANY maps. I don't know who to believe, but I asked PTF themselves and they said you do get 1 FREE OTS map even if you buy used license.
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Yeah, that's a option too, to have some safety margin.
A bit off-topic. I've heard different facts from BM3 group. Some say even if you buy used license you get to chose 1 OTS map - which can be your 91 map in this case. Others say if you buy used license you don't get ANY maps. I don't know who to believe, but I asked PTF themselves and they said you do get 1 FREE OTS map even if you buy used license.
I plan to buy new, so no matter how you cut it, if I want to try a stage 1 91 and stage 1 93 map, kit would appear that I need to buy the map pack as well?
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So if I buy the license, and choose a Stage 1 91 map, then want to try the 93 map, I would need to buy the map pack?
Correct. You would only get a 91 or a 93 map initially. However, BM3 is pretty accommodating. For example, I picked 93 initially, but it became scarce in my area. They swapped my map out to 91 and fine tuned it for me for free. I still have the 93 map downloaded, so I can technically go back and forth if I wanted.

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Hopefully someone answers Rotzy question. Meanwhile I'm just wondering if you get only 1 map - would getting 93 map be a better decision as I know 93 map can adapt to lower octane, within limits of course, but difference between 91 and 93 is not that much - so adapting to 91 shouldn't be a big problem? Not sure about it.
BM3 told me that more octane is always better and to avoid going lower. From that advice, I would say it's better to choose a 91 map unless you are certain you'll always fill up with 93. I wouldn't say it would be dangerous to use 91 on a 93 map, especially if you aren't driving hard. It's just not as safe as running 93 octane on a 91 map.

And if money is no object, I'd say get the map pack right off the bat. That's what I will be doing when I go Stage 2... hopefully this spring.
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BM3 told me that more octane is always better and to avoid going lower. From that advice, I would say it's better to choose a 91 map unless you are certain you'll always fill up with 93. I wouldn't say it would be dangerous to use 91 on a 93 map, especially if you aren't driving hard. It's just not as safe as running 93 octane on a 91 map.
I agree with this 100%. No matter what, I would continue using 93 in my vehicle, and it is readily available in my area. I was very happy with the gains I received using RC Ultimate on setting C, but wasn't happy with the light throttle shifting and some other wonky engine manners. I assume that BM3 Stage 1 91 will provide even more power than RC along with better road manners, and still leave some margin for "error" (bad fuel, overboost, etc.).
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So if I buy the license, and choose a Stage 1 91 map, then want to try the 93 map, I would need to buy the map pack?
I, too, was hoping that the 93 map can adapt the 91 gas. This way, I don’t have to flash back and forth when I can’t get 93 gas on road trip......

But that’s just a hope.
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OTS Maps are not aggressive from what I've seen also running STG1 93 in my X5M and had STG2 93 when I had downpipes.
Everyone should feel safe using 91oct map with 91 fuel, and 93oct for 93 map.
Does anyone know what the max boost is for the Stage 1 91 vs Stage 1 93?
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*edit* If you're looking to buy, there are Black Friday deals out there for BM3 right now.
Is there another deal besides the X-PH one?
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Does anyone know what the max boost is for the Stage 1 91 vs Stage 1 93?
Boost Target might be similar but 91 will target less timing.

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Is there another deal besides the X-PH one?
PTF has a Black Friday 10% off directly and so does bm3nyc who's Authorized Dealer
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Got it from p-xh earlier this and flash the STG 1 93 octane map. Install was pretty simple. A lot quicker and easier than i thought. I spent more time watching YouTube how-to than actually flashing it. Took around 6-7 minutes from start to finish. Had a very short drive after install and really like the power output, smoother and less laggy than stock. However, notice the car doesn't down shift when i kick down. Will do more runs tomorrow to find out.
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I got mine for 15% off with the cable included.
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I got mine for 15% off with the cable included.
Installed yet? My cable arrived today
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Mine arrived too! Only it's a BPC iFlash cable Got some updated map from BPC (got for both 91 and 93). Going to flash it next week when I get time and then I'll post Draggy times.

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