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      04-20-2016, 05:09 PM   #67
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X1s are based off the front wheel drive Mini Countryman and I believe they are built in Germany.
is that the new model? the previous generation was built on the e90 chassis.
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is that the new model? the previous generation was built on the e90 chassis.
Yes. That is the 2016. Car and Driver did a nice writeup. http://www.caranddriver.com/bmw/x1 Title: The BMW with the sideways engine. I took a friend out car shopping to look at X1 vs. Q3. He ended up with the Q3. You get a lot more for your money with the Q3. I do think the looks of the new X1 are stellar compared to the awkward proportions of the nose on the previous gen.
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I don't speak much german but I think it is alarming that we se so many articles and photos of the new X5 G05 but so little of the X7 that is confirmed for 2017 or 2018. It really makes me believe that an all new X5 will arrive before the X7. It is not an LCI in these pictures

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-x...g-8584881.html
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Yes. That is the 2016. Car and Driver did a nice writeup. http://www.caranddriver.com/bmw/x1 Title: The BMW with the sideways engine. I took a friend out car shopping to look at X1 vs. Q3. He ended up with the Q3. You get a lot more for your money with the Q3. I do think the looks of the new X1 are stellar compared to the awkward proportions of the nose on the previous gen.
agreed, the X1 and the GLK/GLC are better looking vehicles but in terms of bang for the buck the Q3 offers more. E84 35i would have money out of the bunch mentioned above.
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I still refuse to believe that the X5 is soon to be relaunched. BMW has a loyal customer core without any history of pissing them off - I doubt BMW would upset every F15 owner out there in order to make a premature launch without some actual need for it. The brand is not by any means in a crisis or so, they got far more customers to lose than to gain with such a move. An unmotivated launch of a new generation of their biggest and most complicated car after 4 years would also set the bar too high for themselves - what would be the point if they can't keep up the pace for the H-generation?

As for the spy shots, they tell us nothing. The shape doesn't resemble a new X5 to me, it looks more like a test mule made to cover up whats really going on. It could be basic platform testing or maybe even the new X3 or X7. The same mule appears to be used when the F15 was tested, maybe these pics are even several years old.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/fi...52.html#agal_2

http://www.autobild.de/bilder/bmw-x5...771.html#bild6

And even if that's really the new X5, it still doesnt mean a release is around the corner. I talked to a boss of engineering at another manufacturer, and he told me "what's new to you, is old to us", explaining that even Before the launch of a new generation, another one is already in development. If this is true to BMW too, the upcoming G-generation was already worked on before the F-gen ever reached the dealers.
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Ladies/Gents, I ordered my new F15 middle of December 2015 it arrived Late May. That isn't a car that requires a rebrand/remodel. The waiting lists are still huge for the F15 why would BMW think of spending loads of money to completely remodel the X5 when the current vehicle is still selling so well against the competition and with it only being 3 years old?

I'm not an engineer but is there any chance that they have bolted the X5 body onto a new X7 chassis for testing?
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Really surprised Bimmerpost has been so tight-lipped about this possible news. No cover story--unless I missed it

There appears to be news stories about this all over the place on the various "car news" sites.

The F-Pace is looking better and better if this news is accurate
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Really surprised Bimmerpost has been so tight-lipped about this possible news. No cover story--unless I missed it

There appears to be news stories about this all over the place on the various "car news" sites.

The F-Pace is looking better and better if this news is accurate
Jan 2016 it was posted.

http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1216796
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Thanks
But I was referring to no LCI.
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Really surprised Bimmerpost has been so tight-lipped about this possible news. No cover story--unless I missed it

There appears to be news stories about this all over the place on the various "car news" sites.

The F-Pace is looking better and better if this news is accurate
I agree. Why no reports of no LCI?
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Really surprised Bimmerpost has been so tight-lipped about this possible news. No cover story--unless I missed it

There appears to be news stories about this all over the place on the various "car news" sites.

The F-Pace is looking better and better if this news is accurate
I agree. Why no reports of no LCI?
I have an insider confirmation that it is true. F15 will live for 5 years. I will still be putting in my order (did already, just delayed for Aug production although my dealer gave me the option to opt out and offered we talk again in a year). After seeing idrive 5.0 my current awesome car starting to feel dated. Idrive in the 6GC also feels dated as it is merely masked up version of the old thing (feels like that without gesture control which is awesome).
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I was told to keep quiet but i owe it to this forum
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Really surprised Bimmerpost has been so tight-lipped about this possible news. No cover story--unless I missed it

There appears to be news stories about this all over the place on the various "car news" sites.

The F-Pace is looking better and better if this news is accurate
I agree. Why no reports of no LCI?
I have an insider confirmation that it is true. F15 will live for 5 years. I will still be putting in my order (did already, just delayed for Aug production although my dealer gave me the option to opt out and offered we talk again in a year). After seeing idrive 5.0 my current awesome car starting to feel dated. Idrive in the 6GC also feels dated as it is merely masked up version of the old thing (feels like that without gesture control which is awesome).
So, roughly 2,5 years from now? Then I actually have time for another F15.
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hahaha, two and half years from now? i'll be three or four different cars by that time. i am not too concerned with this.
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2,5 years is doable but I'd prefer another year of driving the newest car. I don't know what the rush is about thought, both exterior and interior looks way more modern than most competition. It isint lacking technology or preformance either...and now that the Q7 and XC90 are out, both which drive poorer, there isnt too much of upcoming rivals left.

I really hope it's a step up in design, what worries me is this trend towards more soft lined, anonymous design that even BMW embraced. The 3-series facelift is a disaster, especially when the new LED-lights are completely turned on. The X1 turned sleek but...anonymous, and the 7-series is plain boring, inside and out.

The competition is failing aswell, Mercedes GLE Coupe looks like crap. The new E-classe looks like crap. GLC is decent but still way more feminine than the GLK.

Hyundai Santa Fe 2016 facelift looks like crap. New Kia Sorento is also decent but feminine and boring, and felt cheaper inside than my few years older Optima. And then there's the new Sportage...I really dont know what happend there.

New Q7 is a disaster. It looks like they gave an addict a ruler and a few pills and said "here, draw a car". My Eyes are so relieved when I spot the previous generation. This goes for the XC90 too, proportions are way off and it's hard to look at, and Lexus, yeah they are kind of trippin' too.

I only find a few brands suceeding with the design these days. It would be JLR, Mazda, Renault, Seat...and a few others.
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And oh, then there's new music. Horrible. New movies too, so uninteresting. And new computer games, too complicated and weird, people still play 15 year old ones.
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I have an insider confirmation that it is true. F15 will live for 5 years. I will still be putting in my order (did already, just delayed for Aug production although my dealer gave me the option to opt out and offered we talk again in a year). After seeing idrive 5.0 my current awesome car starting to feel dated. Idrive in the 6GC also feels dated as it is merely masked up version of the old thing (feels like that without gesture control which is awesome).
5 years with no lci update?
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I have an insider confirmation that it is true. F15 will live for 5 years. I will still be putting in my order (did already, just delayed for Aug production although my dealer gave me the option to opt out and offered we talk again in a year). After seeing idrive 5.0 my current awesome car starting to feel dated. Idrive in the 6GC also feels dated as it is merely masked up version of the old thing (feels like that without gesture control which is awesome).
5 years with no lci update?
Yes. Actually not sure if it would
Make sense for BMw to invest in LCI when the new car is in development to come out just when the LCI comes out. No confirmation on no LCI but given info i have it just doesn't make sense it happens.
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I've spent a couple off hours searcing all the forums for information and there is actually some information out there.

In http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=901686 I found the following table.

EOPs for current models:

F10 - 10/16
F07 - 06/17
F25 - 07/17
F12/13 - 10/18
F15 - 07/18
F26 - 07/18
F30 - 10/18
F80 - 10/18
F06 - 02/19
F16 - 07/19
F31 - 06/19
F82 - 06/20
F83 - 10/20
F48 - 06/22
F54 - 06/22
F57 - 10/22

I also found some interesting information in this thread. http://www.7post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1256762

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So, here's the funny thing. I went through my records, and I'm now 80% certain the 5 year cycle for F15 is true. Its replacement should start production in August 2018. Moreover, this piece of information has been staring me in the face for over a year now, and I just kept ignoring it.

I should be able to go from 80% to 0% or 100% within the next 6 months.
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Later this year Spartanburg will go into lockdown in order to implement the new assembly lines and production methods to handle the CLAR vehicles.
First of which is the G01 BMW X3. A new assembly hall is also under competition to handle the BMW X7.

From a production stand point it is correct to introduce a new model X5 especially when everything else manufactured in Spartanburg will be using the CLAR architecture.
It also allows the complete renewal of the core of the BMW X portfolio with X3,X4,X5,X6 and the introduction of the first all new X7. But also the non-US built first BMW X2 model and Life Cycle Impulse for the X1. Very appropriate when global sales of SUV/Crossover models continue to grow in market share.
And continue to dominate all core segments especially in markets like the US.

F15/F16 will get a refresh but it will be a subtle update nothing too major as they are selling extremely well.
Refresh will include updated technology via connected drive and Touch screen iDrive updates.
The X4 not so much its a mid-life vehicle having entered during the X3 its based on at its mid-life cycle. So its life span is just over four years.

The entire BMW X portfolio will have been refreshed,renewed and expanded.
It is why recent query to BMW in regards to newer competition from Mercedes-Benz has been shrugged off because they will have every model available for the market from the compact segment to the Grand Klasse luxury of the X7.
So, End of production for F15 is 07/18. That makes it a Little less than 5 years in production. Its replacement should start production in August 2018

F15 will get an update but not an LCI. The update will mainly be a new I-drive and other Technologies.

I don't Think F15 will get the all new Qaud turbo M50D engine
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A buddy of mine that works for BMWHQ confirm all this is true. F15 EOP is 7/2018 and all new X5 SOP 8/2018. There will not be a LCI for the F15. This is good for people that only plan to keep the F15 for 3-5 years because it will still be the current model (no LCI to semi out date it) but bad for those that planned to keep it longer because now it will be the old model sooner.

Going by this schedule mid 2019 would be a good time to jump over to the new model giving it 1 year to iron out the bugs. The F15 was a nightmare the first few months with people posting about issues the instant they drove the car off the dealers lot.

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I've spent a couple off hours searcing all the forums for information and there is actually some information out there.

In http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=901686 I found the following table.

EOPs for current models:

F10 - 10/16
F07 - 06/17
F25 - 07/17
F12/13 - 10/18
F15 - 07/18
F26 - 07/18
F30 - 10/18
F80 - 10/18
F06 - 02/19
F16 - 07/19
F31 - 06/19
F82 - 06/20
F83 - 10/20
F48 - 06/22
F54 - 06/22
F57 - 10/22

I also found some interesting information in this thread. http://www.7post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1256762





So, End of production for F15 is 07/18. That makes it a Little less than 5 years in production. Its replacement should start production in August 2018

F15 will get an update but not an LCI. The update will mainly be a new I-drive and other Technologies.

I don't Think F15 will get the all new Qaud turbo M50D engine
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the NAR SQ7 was originally going to be TDI but with the issues and "scandal" it seems the SQ7 will get the V8tt motor which puts it right up against the X5M/ML63. AOA was hoping to scoop up market share with a TDI product that was performance oriented and didn't hit you in the pocket every time you went on a spirited jaunt. Sadly this may never be.
Apparently somehow, someway AOA got the green light for the SQ7 in TDI form.
Tentative production date of 22wk of 2018. Let's see if it ever comes about or remains vaporware for US.
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