M Power Kit after NBT Patched

starwilling · 11-28-2018, 01:40 PM

Thanks a lot in advance for any input.

I am installing a M Power kit in the F15, but NBT has been patched for carplay. If the dealer update the firmware for M Powr kit FSC installation, the carplay will go away, I can reinstall the FSC with the patch. My question is, will the patch disable the M power kit as I will not have a FSC for the M power kit?

I would appreciate very much for your comments!

alphaod · 11-28-2018, 01:44 PM

It should not affect the M Power Kit.

starwilling · 11-28-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaod

It should not affect the M Power Kit.

Thanks! That is good to know. Could you please explain a bit more as I am interested? Is it because the FSC for the power kit is not installed in the NBT but in the engine ECU?

alphaod · 11-28-2018, 04:09 PM

Generally speaking, the MPPK is an ECU flashed offered by BMW.

Honestly I don't think your FSC patch for Carplay would be disabled by the MPPK. It would be like if a map upgrade got erased. The iDrive technically already has Carplay whether or not you buy it or not. All that FSC codes is tell the iDrive, enable this feature. So if it was somehow disabled by the MPPK flash, you would simply use the same FSC code to tell the iDrive to re-enable the Carplay functionality that's already in the car.

Now I am saying all this assuming you are entering a FSC code to enable Carplay not some hack that's not from BMW.

starwilling · 11-28-2018, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphaod

Generally speaking, the MPPK is an ECU flashed offered by BMW.

Honestly I don't think your FSC patch for Carplay would be disabled by the MPPK. It would be like if a map upgrade got erased. The iDrive technically already has Carplay whether or not you buy it or not. All that FSC codes is tell the iDrive, enable this feature. So if it was somehow disabled by the MPPK flash, you would simply use the same FSC code to tell the iDrive to re-enable the Carplay functionality that's already in the car.

Now I am saying all this assuming you are entering a FSC code to enable Carplay not some hack that's not from BMW.

Now I have the answer, I got the car back today, and Navigation, Carplay, Voice recongination, none of them works, tried to import FSC, failed due to date not valid. Tried to patch the nbt again, not working, NBT does not restart... I guess the latest update (2018-11) version will not allow patch anymore, I will have to go back to the dealer to install the original FSCs.

alphaod · 11-29-2018, 12:17 AM

I hope you get this resolved.

Maverik259 · 11-29-2018, 07:36 AM

Weird that the NBT would be affected by an engine flash...

W37V · 11-29-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverik259

Weird that the NBT would be affected by an engine flash...

With this, they flash almost the whole car. NBT is flashed to add new sport display with higher power numbers.

TheUltimateDrivingManiac · 11-29-2018, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by W37V

With this, they flash almost the whole car. NBT is flashed to add new sport display with higher power numbers.

They don’t need to flash NBT for that.

But dealer software requires to flash to the latest firmware the whole car whenever they do retrofit anything

W37V · 11-30-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateDrivingManiac

They don’t need to flash NBT for that.

But dealer software requires to flash to the latest firmware the whole car whenever they do retrofit anything

I agree, they (dealership, tuners) don't. For ECU tune, one just needs to flash ECU module. BUT, to show higher units (hp, tq) on NBT screen, they must update the NBT.

IIRC, PPK does change the displayed units.

TheUltimateDrivingManiac · 11-30-2018, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by W37V

I agree, they (dealership, tuners) don't. For ECU tune, one just needs to flash ECU module. BUT, to show higher units (hp, tq) on NBT screen, they must update the NBT.

IIRC, PPK does change the displayed units.

Nope, they don't. Power/Torque information, including maximums, provided by ECU to NBT.

sbinshihon · 11-30-2018, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by starwilling

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphaod

Generally speaking, the MPPK is an ECU flashed offered by BMW.

Honestly I don't think your FSC patch for Carplay would be disabled by the MPPK. It would be like if a map upgrade got erased. The iDrive technically already has Carplay whether or not you buy it or not. All that FSC codes is tell the iDrive, enable this feature. So if it was somehow disabled by the MPPK flash, you would simply use the same FSC code to tell the iDrive to re-enable the Carplay functionality that's already in the car.

Now I am saying all this assuming you are entering a FSC code to enable Carplay not some hack that's not from BMW.

Now I have the answer, I got the car back today, and Navigation, Carplay, Voice recongination, none of them works, tried to import FSC, failed due to date not valid. Tried to patch the nbt again, not working, NBT does not restart... I guess the latest update (2018-11) version will not allow patch anymore, I will have to go back to the dealer to install the original FSCs.

Yes, theres no ACP crack for latest frameware 2018-11. If you have installed the MPPK before November, you could have installed the same CarPlay FSC you had again.

W37V · 11-30-2018, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateDrivingManiac

Nope, they don't. Power/Torque information, including maximums, provided by ECU to NBT.

Thanks for clarifying.

starwilling · 12-01-2018, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sbinshihon

Quote:

Originally Posted by starwilling

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphaod

Generally speaking, the MPPK is an ECU flashed offered by BMW.

Honestly I don't think your FSC patch for Carplay would be disabled by the MPPK. It would be like if a map upgrade got erased. The iDrive technically already has Carplay whether or not you buy it or not. All that FSC codes is tell the iDrive, enable this feature. So if it was somehow disabled by the MPPK flash, you would simply use the same FSC code to tell the iDrive to re-enable the Carplay functionality that's already in the car.

Now I am saying all this assuming you are entering a FSC code to enable Carplay not some hack that's not from BMW.

Now I have the answer, I got the car back today, and Navigation, Carplay, Voice recongination, none of them works, tried to import FSC, failed due to date not valid. Tried to patch the nbt again, not working, NBT does not restart... I guess the latest update (2018-11) version will not allow patch anymore, I will have to go back to the dealer to install the original FSCs.

Yes, theres no ACP crack for latest frameware 2018-11. If you have installed the MPPK before November, you could have installed the same CarPlay FSC you had again.

A repair set of FSC works like a charm! All works now without flashing NBT.

sbinshihon · 12-01-2018, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by starwilling

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbinshihon

Quote:

Originally Posted by starwilling

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphaod

Generally speaking, the MPPK is an ECU flashed offered by BMW.

Honestly I don't think your FSC patch for Carplay would be disabled by the MPPK. It would be like if a map upgrade got erased. The iDrive technically already has Carplay whether or not you buy it or not. All that FSC codes is tell the iDrive, enable this feature. So if it was somehow disabled by the MPPK flash, you would simply use the same FSC code to tell the iDrive to re-enable the Carplay functionality that's already in the car.

Now I am saying all this assuming you are entering a FSC code to enable Carplay not some hack that's not from BMW.

Now I have the answer, I got the car back today, and Navigation, Carplay, Voice recongination, none of them works, tried to import FSC, failed due to date not valid. Tried to patch the nbt again, not working, NBT does not restart... I guess the latest update (2018-11) version will not allow patch anymore, I will have to go back to the dealer to install the original FSCs.

Yes, theres no ACP crack for latest frameware 2018-11. If you have installed the MPPK before November, you could have installed the same CarPlay FSC you had again.

A repair set of FSC works like a charm! All works now without flashing NBT.

Everything, works even the ACP?

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starwilling Enlisted Member 26 Rep 39 Posts Drives: BMW X1 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	M Power Kit after NBT Patched Thanks a lot in advance for any input. I am installing a M Power kit in the F15, but NBT has been patched for carplay. If the dealer update the firmware for M Powr kit FSC installation, the carplay will go away, I can reinstall the FSC with the patch. My question is, will the patch disable the M power kit as I will not have a FSC for the M power kit? I would appreciate very much for your comments!
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alphaod Mmmmm… 1152 Rep 2,426 Posts Drives: F15 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW X5 xDrive50i [10.00]	Generally speaking, the MPPK is an ECU flashed offered by BMW. Honestly I don't think your FSC patch for Carplay would be disabled by the MPPK. It would be like if a map upgrade got erased. The iDrive technically already has Carplay whether or not you buy it or not. All that FSC codes is tell the iDrive, enable this feature. So if it was somehow disabled by the MPPK flash, you would simply use the same FSC code to tell the iDrive to re-enable the Carplay functionality that's already in the car. Now I am saying all this assuming you are entering a FSC code to enable Carplay not some hack that's not from BMW. __________________ 2015 BMW X5 xDrive50i BMW CCA 509766
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