Thoughts of moving to Alfa Quadrifoglio

[Jonahnoto]

What are your thoughts on moving from a 2017 X5M to a Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio. Pros and Cons. If anyone has past or present experience with the Alfa

Any information will be amazing!!

[Danyal.N55]

I personally would say that they’re amazing cars but being Italian I’m not so “Sure” about how Reliable it will be. But an alternative to an Alfa would be an F97 X3M Competition. But the Alfa is obviously gonna have less Space, Less Room, Not as good as a Sound, and it’s Not a V8. But also my concern is that Alfa Romeo and Maserati are owned by FCA and FCA products are Awful compared to anything European or even a Ford/Lincoln/GM Product. Those Alfa Romeo V6’s do Sound Amazing, Another thing is they are actually Discontinuing the Alfa Romeo Gulia and Stelvio Quadrifoglio admit but personally if I were in your Shoes I’d go for an F97.

[DallasDave X5M]

Yikes, I have read several articles and most say that an OBDII scanner should be standard equipment with an Alfa purchase. This is needed to clear all the CEL errors that you are in store for, lol.

[DallasDave X5M]

I should also say, they are beautiful and are probably VERY enjoyable to drive. Just do a quick Google search on all the reliability issues, the list is long, very long.

I think it was Car & Driver that made the comment about the OBDII reader, they could barely finish their evaluation with all the errors. Over the 40k mile long-term test, the vehicle was at the dealer for unscheduled repairs for SEVERAL months.

They went on to talk about the Giulia, "Giulia you broke our hearts", lol.

All this while our 2018 X5M is in the shop getting the front lower suspension arms replaced. We only have around 60k miles and it has been in-and-out of the shop at least three times for unscheduled service. Not as bad as the Alfa, but certainly nothing to brag about.

[DallasDave X5M]

Reliability and customer satisfaction survey, made on a sample of 60.000 car owners in Belgium, France, Spain and Portugal (results in percentage):

RELIABILITY SATISFACTION
Lexus 95 89
Subaru 93 87
Toyota 91 86
Mitsubishi 89 83
Kia 89 84
Suzuki 89 83
Hyundai 87 83
Honda 87 87
Mazda 85 87
Seat 85 83
Dacia 85 81
Skoda 84 84
Nissan 82 81
DS Automobiles 82 81
Volkswagen 82 83
Smart 82 82
Peugeot 82 81
Mercedes-Benz 82 85
BMW 82 85
Mini 82 85
Ford 80 82
Citroën 80 80
Audi 80 84
Volvo 80 86
Renault 80 80
Ssangyong 80 81
Porsche 76 92
Opel 76 79
Fiat 76 77
Jeep 72 81
Lancia 68 77
Chevrolet 68 76
Jaguar 68 87
Land Rover 64 82
Alfa Romeo 64 84
Tesla 60 91

OR

BMW AG models that rank highest in their respective segments are BMW 2 Series, BMW 7 Series, BMW X1 and BMW X3. BMW averaged 165 problems per 100 vehicles, compared to Mercedes-Benz with 188 problems per 100 vehicles, Porsche (200 per 100), Alfa Romeo (211 per 100), and Volvo (256 per 100).

[jcm3]

Ive own both and while the driving dynamics of the QV are better i did have quite a few electronic gremlins (infotainment would go blank multiple times, fuel gauge was inaccurate (and left me stranded) and various software updates. Little quality issues with the interior (they replaced the whole leather dash due to delamination at 3k miles). All i can suggest is make sure you have a delaer network (when i bought mine i had 4 in a 20 mile radius) and when i traded it in i had one left. Get an extended warranty from FCA. Personally get the dual injection 2020+