RK Carbon Autowerks Front Mount Intake- Received and Installed!!!!

[Bluesummer]

screw the pictures, we all know what an intake looks like. VIDEOS PLEASE!!

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by Sales@RKautowerks

Whats your "justification" ballpark. Always interested in knowing what you guys are thinking.



-R

By ballpark are you asking Like how much I think your product is worth? Cuz that I can't do as I don't know what it cost you to make and what kind of overhead you have or what kind of return you desire. But MY budget for things that have little functional value (like adding anything CF to a 3T vehicle) is well inside $2000. Don't get me wrong I'd also love to swap my wood grain for the MP CF interior trim and that's not far from that $2000 price tag either.

But again this has nothing do with your product quality or what it's "worth." In the end it's worth what people will pay. Look at the iPhone X. For me it's Just the nature of an aftermarket intake compared to what comes stock on these vehicles warrants little in the actual performance relevant department which is where I can justify $1000s to be spent. That and wheels/tires which people actually see.

And again. I really want to make clear that if I was more well off then I would be all over this product cuz it looks way better than Dinan IMHO.

[Ehloo]

The intake is not for everyone as well as modding a M. M Tax is also part of the equation. No way to get around it

For me money is just money. Can be made again. Experiences and emotions is what gets me up every morning.

I paid double for my exhaust and ended getting downpipes to further enhance the sound. I never thought once that I wasted money as everyday when I hit the throttle that smile on my face makes every penny worth

To each and his own.


For RK, I think the public would accept a price point under 1000. But even with that don’t think you will get a Herd of buyers

Originally Posted by Maverik259

By ballpark are you asking Like how much I think your product is worth? Cuz that I can't do as I don't know what it cost you to make and what kind of overhead you have or what kind of return you desire. But MY budget for things that have little functional value (like adding anything CF to a 3T vehicle) is well inside $2000. Don't get me wrong I'd also love to swap my wood grain for the MP CF interior trim and that's not far from that $2000 price tag either.

But again this has nothing do with your product quality or what it's "worth." In the end it's worth what people will pay. Look at the iPhone X. For me it's Just the nature of an aftermarket intake compared to what comes stock on these vehicles warrants little in the actual performance relevant department which is where I can justify $1000s to be spent. That and wheels/tires which people actually see.

And again. I really want to make clear that if I was more well off then I would be all over this product cuz it looks way better than Dinan IMHO.

[Maverik259]

Mmhmm. Well so much I want to say to this but I will just leave it at congrats.

[RaVe]

Videos Please!!

[Travis1807]

any chance we can get some flow bench data on this? please

[Ehloo]

Love to share but not sure where to start. I have high quality videos recorded already.

What do i next

Originally Posted by RaVe

Videos Please!!

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Originally Posted by Ehloo

Love to share but not sure where to start. I have high quality videos recorded already.

What do i next

Upload them to youtube, then copy and paste the links on here, the video should embed itself. If you can get us links, i'm sure one of us here will get it formatted if need be.

-R

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Originally Posted by Travis1807

any chance we can get some flow bench data on this? please

I'll see what i can get you guys, i'm rather surprised people are even asking. With the other models, nobody cared about my flow bench data. All they cared about was "the street"

-R

[iconoclast]

butt dyno tends to have a placebo effect on "the street"... while data and dyno show what you may feel it doesn't always translate to "the street" either but it's a good way to market and let consumers justify a purchase when you have data to support the purchase. (IMO)

[Alan l.]

People might not care if its a $500 intake but when they are dropping thousands on something that normally cost hundreds for non BMW's and without "M tax" they want data/reasons to justify the price.

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

People might not care if its a $500 intake but when they are dropping thousands on something that normally cost hundreds for non BMW's and without "M tax" they want data/reasons to justify the price.

+1

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

People might not care if its a $500 intake but when they are dropping thousands on something that normally cost hundreds for non BMW's and without "M tax" they want data/reasons to justify the price.

I agree, the demographic here is completely different than the other markets, specifically the F1x M5/M6. The other markets did not care at all about flow data. All they were concerned about was looks, which myself personally, i couldn't understand. The competition offers no flow data, nobody else has any(at least that i have seen). We're the only ones that have offered testing and i got backlash for it. Everyone argued "the streets what matters."

If i had known you guys actually cared, i would have done this already, not a big deal though, i'll get you guys these numbers. just need to find a way to jig the intake to merge into one collector.

Give me a few weeks to collect that data, hardest part is getting a stock airbox.

-R

[trev230]

Originally Posted by Sales@RKautowerks

I agree, the demographic here is completely different than the other markets, specifically the F1x M5/M6. The other markets did not care at all about flow data. All they were concerned about was looks, which myself personally, i couldn't understand. The competition offers no flow data, nobody else has any(at least that i have seen). We're the only ones that have offered testing and i got backlash for it. Everyone argued "the streets what matters."

If i had known you guys actually cared, i would have done this already, not a big deal though, i'll get you guys these numbers. just need to find a way to jig the intake to merge into one collector.

Give me a few weeks to collect that data, hardest part is getting a stock airbox.

-R

Send it to OnfireX5. He has offered several times to flow bench it and also has a stock airbox.

[Bluesummer]

I would be glad to make a video for you guys if you guys don't have time to shoot one

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by trev230

Send it to OnfireX5. He has offered several times to flow bench it and also has a stock airbox.

^^This

[LBBX5M]

Originally Posted by trev230

Send it to OnfireX5. He has offered several times to flow bench it and also has a stock airbox.

I offer to buy one and have it sent to onfireX5 only if he can give us data comparing stock, Dinan and this 2K intake!

NOTE: onfireX5 must send it back to me (Sarasota FL address)

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by LBBX5M

I offer to buy one and have it sent to onfireX5 only if he can give us data comparing stock, Dinan and this 2K intake!

NOTE: onfireX5 must send it back to me (Sarasota FL address)

A very gracious offer. I will flow test any part for anyone on this forum for free. But let me save you the hassle. I've been modifying and racing cars for 40 years (turbo's since 1999). I own 4 rides. 3 are turbocharged 1 is supercharged. I've bought a LOT of parts that don't work....and parts that do work based on manufacturer's claims.

Based on my gazillion flowbench, Vbox, Dragstrip and digital manometer tests on my X5M :

Pure Stock X5M(~17psi peak):

M division did a GREAT job designing the Exhaust System and the Intake System. Buy an aftermarket replacement for either for personal customization and not a Horsepower Increase. The correct aftermarket part will enhance sound and visuals, but there's very little to any HP increase to be found because M did an outstanding job.

X5M plus 3psi (~20-21psi peak) from RaceChip, Dinan, JB4, etc :

1. Correct aftermarket exhaust is worth ~10 horsepower.
2. Correct aftermarket intake is worth ~10-15 horsepower.

I pestered Dinan for a week for any data they could provide and received nothing but excuses. They advertise their intake PLUS tuning for a reason. But I do give them an "A" for honesty.

Buy RK if you like that design and the visual. By design, it will give you much more turbo sound than Dinan. Just keep in mind the differences in design.

Also keep in mind that once you get to ZERO pressure drop, you have maxed the HP gains. So If I designed and sold an airbox that outflowed Dinan by 5000cfm, that would be a great marketing pitch.....but it would not make 1 more horsepower over Dinan at 21psi because it is at a zero drop....there is marketing....and then results.

Here is my rolling test bed for turbo parts :

[Ron Comp]

M is in the shop having cold intake installed and I had mechanic hit the gas a and there was no 'whoosh' noise what so ever how long will it take to break in to get sound

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by Ron Comp

M is in the shop having cold intake installed and I had mechanic hit the gas a and there was no 'whoosh' noise what so ever how long will it take to break in to get sound

Much easier to hear it under load on the street....spools the turbines.

RK system ?

[Ron Comp]

Yes RK system thanks for the info can't wait to pick it up

[Ehloo]

Volume of whoosh is strictly related to boost pressure. I am running race chip with added 3 psi. I hear the very enjoyable woosh. That being said on my m4 where I was running race chip also and rk intakes the woosh was there but nothing like I have heard online. Once I got a full bm3 tune the volume increased by atleast 50 percent. Car sounds like an angry dragon about to spit fire and burn your village to rubble.

That being said I will be going with a full tune bm3 again for reason of increased woosh and that I know f85 has plenty of extra ponies that are not tapped. I get bored easy and when this phase usually means new mod

Originally Posted by Ron Comp

Yes RK system thanks for the info can't wait to pick it up