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      03-29-2024, 05:48 AM   #419
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Strange that Vowles has said that Williams should have two cars back at Suzuka confident that the tub broken by Albon should be repaired. Why they haven't a spare tub is a mystery.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...7FgdB86EEswyHX
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Strange that Vowles has said that Williams should have two cars back at Suzuka confident that the tub broken by Albon should be repaired. Why they haven't a spare tub is a mystery.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...7FgdB86EEswyHX
Sounds like Williams is diverted resources to help Merc. What race team doesn't have a spare car.
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Hoping the Brembo caliper saga can be sorted, brembo are blaming teams for 'fiddling' with the components too much and there has even been suggestion of sabotage, that would thicken the plot even more.

So it looks like Sainz vs Checo in the coming races and the gloves will be off between these two of who can get better results as the season progresses.
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So it looks like Sainz vs Checo in the coming races and the gloves will be off between these two of who can get better results as the season progresses.

It's Sainz vs LC as Carlos is out to make Fred look like a fool.
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Strange that Vowles has said that Williams should have two cars back at Suzuka confident that the tub broken by Albon should be repaired. Why they haven't a spare tub is a mystery.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...7FgdB86EEswyHX
It's the nuance of the "spare car" rule. I don't have a great handle on it, but apparently (I believe this is a F1-wide cost cutting measure) you cannot have a spare car per se, but rather all of the necessary components you need to assemble a spare car. I am definitely oversimplifying it, but that's the rub of it, and that is why Williams only ran one car in AUS once Albon binned it.

It is quite troubling that James is alluding to an idea that they are going to have to rush to have the SECOND car ready by suzuka, though. It's almost giving 1990s era Andrea Moda vibes. That's a very dramatic comparison obviously but yeah, this is giving the optics of Williams circling the drain. I hope that is not the case.
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It's Sainz vs LC as Carlos is out to make Fred look like a fool.
Make John Elkann look like a fool...not Vasseur.
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Make John Elkann look like a fool...not Vasseur.
I thought it was not an Italian who was going to fumble it again at Ferrari but it looks like the tradition may continue.
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there is, there are a lot of karters who are on the same pace as max. but cant progress to Formula 4-2 with out money.
I highly doubt there is anyone in F4, 3, & 2 that could match Max. There isnt anyone in F1 that can match him. He truly has taken that natural and raw talent and not only keeps getting better but outworks everyone else too.
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I highly doubt there is anyone in F4, 3, & 2 that could match Max. There isnt anyone in F1 that can match him. He truly has taken that natural and raw talent and not only keeps getting better but outworks everyone else too.
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I wish the best for Carlos Sainz, he did get screwed and having the last laugh doesn't pay well. I suspect that Max will have the say in who is his team mate.
I don't think Max would care one way or the other. He's pretty much destroyed Sai before and I do think Sai would have an equally difficult time driving the RB. Similar to how last year with Ferrari, as soon as the car started to suite Lec's driving preference which is the way Max likes the car, Sai started to struggle and ultimately despite no win, Lec ended up ahead in points (which is truly all that matters).
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Strange that Vowles has said that Williams should have two cars back at Suzuka confident that the tub broken by Albon should be repaired. Why they haven't a spare tub is a mystery.
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It's the nuance of the "spare car" rule. I don't have a great handle on it, but apparently (I believe this is a F1-wide cost cutting measure) you cannot have a spare car per se, but rather all of the necessary components you need to assemble a spare car. I am definitely oversimplifying it, but that's the rub of it, and that is why Williams only ran one car in AUS once Albon binned it.

It is quite troubling that James is alluding to an idea that they are going to have to rush to have the SECOND car ready by suzuka, though. It's almost giving 1990s era Andrea Moda vibes. That's a very dramatic comparison obviously but yeah, this is giving the optics of Williams circling the drain. I hope that is not the case.
Yes the problem is they haven't a spare tub ready yet which is in the process of being built and it's a slow and expensive process that takes ages with the final moulded tub being machined to fit their specs and just one mistake in the process with a hole or cut out of place would be disaster.

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The Japanese will go mental over that cap harking back to the sixties when the all white Honda F1 car stormed onto the series.
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Merciless..it is so but a Lion has to eat. That said Chas did get out beforehand what? oh no! I bet Kees had a hand in this
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Interesting,,,,

Ferrari has utilized the same rear wing in all sessions across the first three races of the season.
- Medium-Low Load: The rear wing used in Saudi Arabia was of a medium-low load configuration, previously tested at Fiorano but never mounted until this season.
- Emphasis on Beam Wing: Unlike previous ground effect cars, Ferrari's SF-24 places more emphasis on the beam wing configuration, with a single rod being more prominent compared to 2023.
- Direction from Previous Tests: Insights from tests conducted at Zandvoort last year influenced the beam wing configuration chosen for the SF-24, as seen in correlation work between the wind tunnel and track.
- Setup Focus: Ferrari has actively adjusted setup through beam wing choices, notably opting for a unique element from Saturday onwards in Melbourne.
- Future Considerations: With upcoming races in Suzuka, China, Miami, and Imola having similar loading needs, it remains to be seen if Ferrari will maintain the trend observed in the first three races.
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One wing outlined in red and the other in blue.

Are both considered beam wings? Or do they have different names
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I highly doubt there is anyone in F4, 3, & 2 that could match Max. There isnt anyone in F1 that can match him. He truly has taken that natural and raw talent and not only keeps getting better but outworks everyone else too.
no there is. you compare their karting times to max karting times they are within the same pace.

and i specified if money wasn't an issue for some of these people they could be protentional freaks in Formula.

and knowing from personal friends who compete in the euro karting championship, i truly believe what they say.
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