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      04-24-2017, 11:13 AM   #1
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2018 X5 (go5)

I am deciding if I want to get a new 2017 X5 or wait for a 2018 X5. I have heard rumors that BMW is ending the short lifespan of the current X5 (F15) and will be going to the GO5 for the 2018 model. If that is true, the 2018 will not be an LCI refresh and will be all new. Does anyone have more info on this?
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The GO5 is not expected to begin production until October 2018. It will be a 2019 model year and I highly recommend avoiding the first year of production.
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there indeed will not be a LCI for F15. At this point, you're either waiting for next generation or buying a 2017 or 2018.

From the E70 experience, you should see some "extras" offered on the F15 final model year to entice buyers to buy the last model year. On the E70, they gave all the M-Sports a HP bump.
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there indeed will not be a LCI for F15. At this point, you're either waiting for next generation or buying a 2017 or 2018.

From the E70 experience, you should see some "extras" offered on the F15 final model year to entice buyers to buy the last model year. On the E70, they gave all the M-Sports a HP bump.
+1 re the first paragraph.


They did? I do not recall that and we still own a '13 M Sport.
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      04-24-2017, 01:01 PM   #5
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+1 re the first paragraph.


They did? I do not recall that and we still own a '13 M Sport.

yes sir!

The M Sport package adds 15 horsepower and 30 pounds-feet of torque to the six-cylinder xDrive35i (for a total of 315 hp), and an extra 40 hp and 30 pounds-feet of torque in the xDrive50i (for 440 hp).

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=604267
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yes sir!

The M Sport package adds 15 horsepower and 30 pounds-feet of torque to the six-cylinder xDrive35i (for a total of 315 hp), and an extra 40 hp and 30 pounds-feet of torque in the xDrive50i (for 440 hp).

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=604267
I think you mean M Performance package Ace

Optional package available only in 2013 (last year of E70) with those exact specs you listed. Plus aluminum pedals and black exhaust tips. M Sport was required to add M Performance though.
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I think you mean M Performance package Ace

Optional package available only in 2013 (last year of E70) with those exact specs you listed. Plus aluminum pedals and black exhaust tips. M Sport was required to add M Performance though.
wait, so you had to also tick M Performance Package too? You couldn't just tick M-Sport?

I always thought all the M-sports came with the power bump, that is, the M Performance was bundled with M Sport.
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The GO5 is not expected to begin production until October 2018. It will be a 2019 model year and I highly recommend avoiding the first year of production.
Are you sure it won't be a 2018 model?
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wait, so you had to also tick M Performance Package too? You couldn't just tick M-Sport?

I always thought all the M-sports came with the power bump, that is, the M Performance was bundled with M Sport.
Well similarly, you have to click on the adaptive M suspension when you order a Msport line with the F15 as well. You would think it would be standard.
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wait, so you had to also tick M Performance Package too? You couldn't just tick M-Sport?

I always thought all the M-sports came with the power bump, that is, the M Performance was bundled with M Sport.
Correct, to get the power increase you had to also add M Performance - it was a separate package. You could have M Sport only, but not M Performance only.

Here's one with both, packages listed separately -
http://cpo.bmwusa.com/used/BMW/2013-...88829e67af.htm

M Sport is P337 in the decoder, M Performance is S767.
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Correct, to get the power increase you had to also add M Performance - it was a separate package. You could have M Sport only, but not M Performance only.

Here's one with both, packages listed separately -
http://cpo.bmwusa.com/used/BMW/2013-...88829e67af.htm

M Sport is P337 in the decoder, M Performance is S767.
wow, way to make a lot of E70 owners feel inadequate.
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Are you sure it won't be a 2018 model?
Everything out there points to a 2019 model with start of production around august 2018. Not sure when they will start hitting dealers. This would be a 5 year run vs. typical 7 year cycle.
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I think you mean M Performance package Ace

Optional package available only in 2013 (last year of E70) with those exact specs you listed. Plus aluminum pedals and black exhaust tips. M Sport was required to add M Performance though.

Yep! This... ^
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Are you sure it won't be a 2018 model?
Production will not begin until early fall 2018, therefore it will be a 2019 model year.
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Are you sure it won't be a 2018 model?
We would have seen it pop up at an auto show or in the press by now if it was an 18. I agree with others that it will be a 19. BMW has their work cut out for them on this one, competition is getting tough.
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We would have seen it pop up at an auto show or in the press by now if it was an 18. I agree with others that it will be a 19. BMW has their work cut out for them on this one, competition is getting tough.
Besides, 2018 is the year the new X3 is due to be out. They won't release the new X5 together with the X3 in the same year.
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Besides, 2018 is the year the new X3 is due to be out. They won't release the new X5 together with the X3 in the same year.
And don't forget the X7 is due to debute in 2018 for the 2019MY.
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I'm waiting until he release of the second year of the new model. The first Year nightmare problems should be fixed by then....
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confused...did the F15 have the first year model issues?

My first year model M3 didn't have any unique issues...my near final model year X5 has the same issues as the models 4 years older. All my issues with BMWs has been endemic to the entire model/powertrain range.

The only thing I can think of in recent memory that had early model issues was the N54 fuel pump fiasco, and that took 2-3 years to phase out with the N55 IIRC.

Is this the bogeyman of fearful BMW owners?
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F15 wasn't exactly a new X5 it was a reincarnation of the E70 or a substantial "facelift" if you wanted to go that far.
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The F15 had lots of issues when it was first launched. There were months of thread from people posting they had check engine lights on the drive home after picking up the car.
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Getting a CEL on the same day you purchased the car is like losing your virginity and contracting an STD at the same time. It's a bittersweet day.
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