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      11-18-2017, 08:12 AM   #1
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Run Flats

I have a set of Pirelli PZero tyres for the summer, and after swapping them for my winters noticed a large screw imbedded into the tread about a third along from the outside. This is on the drivers side front tyre.
Now I'm experiencing various reports on whether this can be plug repaired or new tyre needed?
What is the general rule with runflats - are they repairable or is a new tyre needed?
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I had a similar situation few weeks back, mine was found during routine service inspection by BMW service technician. As per what they told me, since it is lodged on the outer side of tyre (and not towards the centre) it needs to be replaced and not repaired (or can't be repaired). They also cautioned me to change both tyres (in my case both rears) to reduce the risk of straining XDrive system (due to different tire tread depth and as a result different circumference. I ended up changing both... after all tyre is much cheaper to replace than to deal with drivetrain related faults.
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      11-18-2017, 10:58 AM   #3
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Discount tire will repair, if it's repairable, with a patch from the inside. I find them to be the best for flat repair because they will repair, if it falls into guidelines for repair. In my experience, most tire "repair" shops will just say "not repairable" without regard for where the hole is located.
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Found a nail in a front tyre during the MOT last year. It passed the MOT again this year (same nail with about 3000 miles on it) and the BMW tech told me to leave it. Either itís not all the way through or itís doing a good job plugging the hole.
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Bad news. Pirelli runflats are not repairable. That is Pirelli’s policy, you can search it on the web. Had the same thing happen and Discount refused to repair it due to the policy. Other runflat brands can be repaired. I forget which others cannot.

You may get lucky and find someone who will fix it. Pirelli does have a replacement policy for this situation and depending on your miles on the tires they may replace it. Again, see their website.
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Bad news. Pirelli runflats are not repairable. That is Pirelli’s policy, you can search it on the web. Had the same thing happen and Discount refused to repair it due to the policy. Other runflat brands can be repaired. I forget which others cannot.

You may get lucky and find someone who will fix it. Pirelli does have a replacement policy for this situation and depending on your miles on the tires they may replace it. Again, see their website.
I previously thought that a screw in a tire can be repaired if it's in the thread portion of tire - no matter run flat or not. If it's in a sidewall - then it can't be repaired no matter run flat or regular tire. Basically I thought it doesn't matter RFT or not - what mattered was a location of a puncture (and it's size).
However, what you are saying is that Pirelli RFT can't be repaired even if screw is in the thread? I understand it may be some weird Pirelli policy, but I doubt Pirelli RFTs are made any different than any other RFT brand. I mean this is not a rocket science - it's just a reinforced metal mesh sidewall. I highly doubt Pirelli has some extraterrestrial tire tech lol

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I’m not saying you can’t try to repair them, just saying Pirelli won’t let authorized shops do it. First the good news - the road hazard warranty Pirelli includes free

"If a Run Flat tire becomes unserviceable due to workmanship or material irregularities or road hazard injury during the initial warranty period, the tire will be replaced to the owner at no charge. The initial warranty period lasts one year from the date of original retail purchase (purchase receipt required) or within the first 2/32" of original tread, whichever occurs first. After the initial warranty period, if a Run Flat tire becomes unserviceable due to workmanship and material irregularities or road hazard injury, the owner must pay the cost for a comparable new Pirelli brand or PTNA private brand replacement tire on a pro-rated basis.”

Here is the list of run flat brands and their repair policies.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...jsp?techid=226
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Iím not saying you canít try to repair them, just saying Pirelli wonít let authorized shops do it. First the good news - the road hazard warranty Pirelli includes free

"If a Run Flat tire becomes unserviceable due to workmanship or material irregularities or road hazard injury during the initial warranty period, the tire will be replaced to the owner at no charge. The initial warranty period lasts one year from the date of original retail purchase (purchase receipt required) or within the first 2/32" of original tread, whichever occurs first. After the initial warranty period, if a Run Flat tire becomes unserviceable due to workmanship and material irregularities or road hazard injury, the owner must pay the cost for a comparable new Pirelli brand or PTNA private brand replacement tire on a pro-rated basis.Ē

Here is the list of run flat brands and their repair policies.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...jsp?techid=226
This an interesting proposition but sadly looks like it only applies to you guys in the USA. Never heard of this in the UK unless anyone knows otherwise
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I had a similar situation few weeks back, mine was found during routine service inspection by BMW service technician. As per what they told me, since it is lodged on the outer side of tyre (and not towards the centre) it needs to be replaced and not repaired (or can't be repaired). They also cautioned me to change both tyres (in my case both rears) to reduce the risk of straining XDrive system (due to different tire tread depth and as a result different circumference. I ended up changing both... after all tyre is much cheaper to replace than to deal with drivetrain related faults.
This seems to be a harsh and expensive remedy . What tyre tread depth did you have left as I am half way through mine?
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This is the culprit!
Not wanting to have to change for a new tyre I'm hoping a repair will do?
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It is hard to see how much mm tread is left on the tyre, but maybe they are not far off needing changing anyway?
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It is hard to see how much mm tread is left on the tyre, but maybe they are not far off needing changing anyway?
As others have said you can fix this. I had an Exacto blade lodged in my P Zero RFTs and my local tire shop fixed it with a patch from the inside. It was a quick cheap fix that saved me hundreds of dollars as I was outside of the Pirelli warranty period.
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I had a similar situation few weeks back, mine was found during routine service inspection by BMW service technician. As per what they told me, since it is lodged on the outer side of tyre (and not towards the centre) it needs to be replaced and not repaired (or can't be repaired). They also cautioned me to change both tyres (in my case both rears) to reduce the risk of straining XDrive system (due to different tire tread depth and as a result different circumference. I ended up changing both... after all tyre is much cheaper to replace than to deal with drivetrain related faults.
This seems to be a harsh and expensive remedy . What tyre tread depth did you have left as I am half way through mine?
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I had a similar situation few weeks back, mine was found during routine service inspection by BMW service technician. As per what they told me, since it is lodged on the outer side of tyre (and not towards the centre) it needs to be replaced and not repaired (or can't be repaired). They also cautioned me to change both tyres (in my case both rears) to reduce the risk of straining XDrive system (due to different tire tread depth and as a result different circumference. I ended up changing both... after all tyre is much cheaper to replace than to deal with drivetrain related faults.
This seems to be a harsh and expensive remedy . What tyre tread depth did you have left as I am half way through mine?
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I had around 4mm+ left on both them. I did check with one more BMW service centre and their advice was identical
I saw the pic posted by you, mine was in similar position but on a far side rear tyre. I am not sure if in UK we have anyone who can repair runflats. If you do find anyone it will be a good reference to have.
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1st yr replacement in Canada, dealer replaced if you inform them.
I replaced RF at dealer, they specify on invoice, client declined new tire and no warranty on repair. My indy plugged another tire. Yours should be pluggable.

Where warranty applies, one could consider Pirelli. I believe most don't, with most opting nonRF, no warranty.
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