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      11-10-2017, 04:27 AM   #1
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F1 2017: Brazilian GP - São Paulo (Nov 12)

Fri 10 November – Sun 12 November 2017 GRANDE PRÊMIO HEINEKEN DO BRASIL

Brazilian GP Tyre Allocation



Fri 10 November – Sun 12 November 2017

Practice 1 Fri 10:00 (Local)| Fri 6:00 AM EST | Fri 3:00 AM PST

Practice 2 Fri 14:00 (Local)| Fri 10:00 PM EST | Fri 7:00 AM PST NBCSN

Practice 3 Sat 11:00 (Local)| Fri 7:00 AM EST | Fri 4:00 AM PST

Qualifying Sat 14:00 (Local)| Sat 10:00 AM EST | Sat 7:00 AM PST NBCSN

Race Sun 14:00 (Local)| Sun 10:00 AM EST | Sun 7:00 AM PST NBCSN

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The Interlagos weather forecast...

Saturday => Rain for the qualifying ( can be very interesting )

Sunday => Sunny for the race and 27/29°C.

More is here => http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Raci...it.aspx?sday=1
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Think Hamilton had lack of downforce..



QUALIFYING RESULTS

Pos. Driver Team Time
1 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1:08.322
2 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1:08.360
3 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:08.538
4 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing 1:08.925
5 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing 1:09.330
6 Sergio Perez Force India 1:09.598
7 Fernando Alonso McLaren 1:09.617
8 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1:09.703
9 Carlos Sainz Renault 1:09.805
10 Felipe Massa Williams 1:09.841
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Well deserved win for Seb. Great recovery drives from Lewis and Daniel.

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      11-12-2017, 01:01 PM   #5
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Well deserved win for Seb. Great recovery drives from Lewis and Daniel.

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Indeed . Redbull Renault engines are very sensitive for the height difference and the Brazilian heat.
It was very clear that Max and Ricciardo had lack of HP in this race..
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I know Vettel won but damn Hamilton destroyed that track. Starting in the Pit and near earning a podium....freak of nature.
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Absolutely agree. Hamilton showed us today why he won his fourth championship.
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Hamilton was running full power mode (as admitted by Wolff) from that Mercedes Engine. So must have been worth another 20-30hp.
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No one came close to showing the talent that Lewis has during today's race; that drive was incredibly. If Mercedes had kept him out on his initial tyres for another 5 laps and changed then him onto the SS, he may well have been right at the front hounding SV at the end. As it was it looked like he had 'cooked' his tyres with about 3 laps to go, hence unable to pass Kimi.

Regardless he showed why he's the best UK World Champion ever and could well tie MS' record.

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No one came close to showing the talent that Lewis has during today's race; that drive was incredibly. If Mercedes had kept him out on his initial tyres for another 5 laps and changed then him onto the SS, he may well have been right at the front hounding SV at the end. As it was it looked like he had 'cooked' his tyres with about 3 laps to go, hence unable to pass Kimi.

Regardless he showed why he's the best UK World Champion ever and could well tie MS' record.

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That's why MAX dreams from a Mercedes steering wheel..While he extended his contract with Horners Redbull Renault .
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That's why MAX dreams from a Mercedes steering wheel..While he extended his contract with Horners Redbull Renault .
I'm pretty surprised Max extended he contract ... regardless of how Bottas is doing this year ... I'd imagine he would've been a shoe-in for a seat with Merc. Although I think Max and Red Bull are a very good combination "branding" wise.

Ricciardo mentioned he was holding out making his decision. Although I think Ferrari would be a great place for him (especially with his Italian name) ... I'm not sure Seb would welcome him as a teammate again. Regardless of him being a very talented driver, I'm not sure he'd be a good fit for Merc. But the writing is already on the wall .... Red Bull is Max's team going forward, with that, not sure it's the best spot for Ricciardo at the end of this contract.
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I'm pretty surprised Max extended he contract ... regardless of how Bottas is doing this year ... I'd imagine he would've been a shoe-in for a seat with Merc. Although I think Max and Red Bull are a very good combination "branding" wise.

Ricciardo mentioned he was holding out making his decision. Although I think Ferrari would be a great place for him (especially with his Italian name) ... I'm not sure Seb would welcome him as a teammate again. Regardless of him being a very talented driver, I'm not sure he'd be a good fit for Merc. But the writing is already on the wall .... Red Bull is Max's team going forward, with that, not sure it's the best spot for Ricciardo at the end of this contract.
Bet Redbull had to pay Max a ton of money to stay, plus I’d imagine Lewis told Toto he didn’t want him at Mercedes?
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Bet Redbull had to pay Max a ton of money to stay, plus I’d imagine Lewis told Toto he didn’t want him at Mercedes?
I can see that ... rumor has it Jos Verstappen was in talks with both Merc and Ferrari. From what I've read Max's contract is upped to about 20 million per year. Pretty nice especially since he only extended it until 2020, and he's young enough that the extra couple years isn't a big deal, especially since he's with a top team ... although I highly doubt he'll be in champion contention with Red Bull (as I don't see Renualt improving the PU enough in the short term).

What I did find to be an interesting though was Ham and Ferrari. Ham kinda eluded to Seb's contract extension all but ended any thoughts of him going to Ferrari in the near future.



F1 ... it's such a soap opera behind the scenes.

(just read a piece from Drive about how Seb and Ferrari colluded and how Alonso got played when he tried to hardball Ferrari)
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I'm pretty surprised Max extended he contract ... regardless of how Bottas is doing this year ... I'd imagine he would've been a shoe-in for a seat with Merc. Although I think Max and Red Bull are a very good combination "branding" wise.

Ricciardo mentioned he was holding out making his decision. Although I think Ferrari would be a great place for him (especially with his Italian name) ... I'm not sure Seb would welcome him as a teammate again. Regardless of him being a very talented driver, I'm not sure he'd be a good fit for Merc. But the writing is already on the wall .... Red Bull is Max's team going forward, with that, not sure it's the best spot for Ricciardo at the end of this contract.
HAM would never agree to be team mate with MAX .
Because MAX is too good for HAM and Horner knew that , that's why Horner said MAX is like a dog with a bone on a circuit !

Like we heard the Red Bull money was sweet for MAX , and actually he deserves it .
On the other hand , I would love to see MAX in a Merc ..and along HAM
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HAM would never agree to be team mate with MAX .
Because MAX is too good for HAM and Horner knew that , that's why Horner said MAX is like a dog with a bone on a circuit !

Like we heard the Red Bull money was sweet for MAX , and actually he deserves it .
On the other hand , I would love to see MAX in a Merc ..and along HAM
I can see how Ham wouldn't want Max to be his team mate ... but I kinda think his ego would welcome the challenge. Just to try and show the youngster why he's a 4x champ. But with that ... I'm sure it would become as toxic as every one of Ham's team mate relationships.

The thing is Max is such a talent I can't see Niki Lauda or Toto Wolff, for that matter, letting an opportunity to get Max pass for too long regardless of Ham's wishes. Heck, Lauda almost fired both Ham and Rosberg when they took each other out last year. And him being 10% owner of the team ... I'm sure that carries a bit of weight ... plus Merc is a team first organization. IMO, Merc thinks Max is still a bit young and reckless, regardless of his talent ... plus they weren't willing to pony up the monies Red Bull was willing to fork over to keep their guy. So Max re-upped with Red Bull, especially after the abysmal season he had due to unreliability, for a big payday.

With Ferrari signing Kimi so early, I doubt they had much interest in Max for the same reasons ... OR Vettel used his veto power to nix the deal (although I heard that Vettel didn't have veto power this season ... however I take that with a grain of salt).

I'm thinking what happens with Ricciardo the end of next season will end up shaping where Max lands next. I definitely don't see Ricciardo staying with Red Bull ... I'm not sure he'd be fine playing second fiddle to Vettel ... but I don't really see him as a "Merc" kinda guy ... although I believe he'd have the perfect temperament to be Ham's team mate, and would definitely be an upgrade to Bottas.

I guess we'll see soon enough. Already looking forward to next season.
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