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      11-25-2014, 04:33 PM   #1
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Adaptive Dynamic or stick with M Sport Suspension

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Slowly getting a spec together to order my first X5.

Looking at the UK specs and there is a option for Adaptive Dynamic Suspension. Does anyone have this and if so, how does it compare to the standard m sport setup?

does it give you any extra "modes"?

I tried asking the dealer but he was unsure.
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What is the code for Adaptive Dynamic? If it is the equivalent of DHP here, it will add body roll stabilization that will change how the car handles in all modes. There are still only 4 modes. It will make the car more comfortable and handle better at all times. It is well worth the extra cost if that is what it is.
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Evening Guys / Girls

Slowly getting a spec together to order my first X5.

Looking at the UK specs and there is a option for Adaptive Dynamic Suspension. Does anyone have this and if so, how does it compare to the standard m sport setup?

does it give you any extra "modes"?

I tried asking the dealer but he was unsure.
This thread has good info about all of them: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...=804054&page=2

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Thanks for that Opasha

I sort of get it but the UK seems to get different options.

I just had a week long test drive in a 40D M Sport and while the ride was generally good, I felt that BMW where holding something back. That's when I noticed the adaptive dynamic suspension. I am hoping that that would give me a stiffer ride that I am looking for.

Just don't want to drop £2500 on something they may not be needed.
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You are most welcome. This may help further: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=718977

From my understanding it would seem that DHP is what you are talking about...not sure why Euro markets word things differently from the US and vice versa. Pure Excellence Package? I don't understand why they can't name things the same all over the world .

Either way...the upgraded suspension DHP (most likely what yours is) is MUCH better than Adaptive M suspension. Many have it and love it. There is not a single negative post on here about it. I would upgrade if you feel the 40d is lacking and if you are still unhappy about power/throttle response, order a tune. It will kick you into 50i territory easily.
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I just took delivery of a 50i with the Adaptive M suspension option and it is awesome. Makes a big difference over the standard suspension. I have not had the pleasure of driving the DHP set up but can only imagine it is fantastic. Depending on your budget I would definitely upgrade the suspension.
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Thanks for that Opasha

I sort of get it but the UK seems to get different options.

I just had a week long test drive in a 40D M Sport and while the ride was generally good, I felt that BMW where holding something back. That's when I noticed the adaptive dynamic suspension. I am hoping that that would give me a stiffer ride that I am looking for.

Just don't want to drop £2500 on something they may not be needed.
I am also in Europe and opted in for this package:

7SZ Adaptive suspension package Professional
2VM Adaptive suspension package 'Comfort'
2VP Adaptive suspension package 'Dynamic'

I don't really know if that is the equivalent of DHP or not.. hope it is. My dealer said this was the M Sport Suspenssion killer. Is this what you opted for?
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You want the 2VP, but the full version which has - Adaptive M Suspension, but it only comes on the (coming) X5M & the M50d only which is not available in the US.

The 50i does not have "Adaptive M suspension", it has Adaptive suspension package ‘Professional’, includes components of adaptive suspension packages „Comfort‟ and „Dynamic‟ as long as you don't have 3rd row seats. I think its coded as ZDH in the US or that was its old name.

It goes:-

2VM Adaptive suspension package 'Comfort'
2VP Adaptive suspension package 'Dynamic'
7SZ Adaptive suspension package Professional which is "Comfort & Dynamic" (old ZDH)


Then the full blown X5M & M50d get on top of 7SZ:-

"Adaptive M Suspension", on top.

Also the X5M & M50d come with different steering "M Servotronic" where as all the X5's including the 50i & optioned M-Sport options come with standard Servotronic power steering only, they just give you a M-Sport steering wheel.

And finally the X5M & M50d come with bigger brakes than on the other X5 variants, the X5M has different caliper's than the M50d also, although the rotors fairly close in size.
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You want the 2VP, but the full version which has - Adaptive M Suspension, but it only comes on the (coming) X5M & the M50d only which is not available in the US.

The 50i does not have "Adaptive M suspension", it has Adaptive suspension package ‘Professional’, includes components of adaptive suspension packages „Comfort‟ and „Dynamic‟ as long as you don't have 3rd row seats. I think its coded as ZDH in the US or that was its old name.

It goes:-

2VM Adaptive suspension package 'Comfort'
2VP Adaptive suspension package 'Dynamic'
7SZ Adaptive suspension package Professional which is "Comfort & Dynamic" (old ZDH)


Then the full blown X5M & M50d get on top of 7SZ:-

"Adaptive M Suspension", on top.

Also the X5M & M50d come with different steering "M Servotronic" where as all the X5's including the 50i & optioned M-Sport options come with standard Servotronic power steering only, they just give you a M-Sport steering wheel.

And finally the X5M & M50d come with bigger brakes than on the other X5 variants, the X5M has different caliper's than the M50d also, although the rotors fairly close in size.
Actually, this is available in the US. To get the full DHP, when you order ZDH (also referenced as 7SZ) it checks to see if you have already ordered 2VF (Adaptive M Suspension). If you have it, it adds 2VP (Dynamic Perfomance Control + Active Stabilization). If you do not have 2VF, it will add 2VM (Dynamic Damper Control + Rear Axle Suspension). In the US, when you order the M Line, 2VF is a separate option. By all accounts, the only difference between 2VF and 2VM if you order 7SZ is that the car will be lowered .4 inches with 2VF. The performance and feel are reported to be almost identical.

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I am also in Europe and opted in for this package:

7SZ Adaptive suspension package Professional
2VM Adaptive suspension package 'Comfort'
2VP Adaptive suspension package 'Dynamic'

I don't really know if that is the equivalent of DHP or not.. hope it is. My dealer said this was the M Sport Suspenssion killer. Is this what you opted for?
7SZ is the Dynamic Handling Package so you have DHP. You will love it!
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Thanks for all the replies

The code for the upgraded suspension looks like it is 2VP.

So I assume that would mean I get the anti roll as well as tighter ride. Does is lower it any? Also is that still air suspension or old fashioned springs?
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7SZ is the Dynamic Handling Package so you have DHP. You will love it!
Perfect, thank you for the clarification! Can't wait already!
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Thanks for all the replies

The code for the upgraded suspension looks like it is 2VP.

So I assume that would mean I get the anti roll as well as tighter ride. Does is lower it any? Also is that still air suspension or old fashioned springs?
You should also have 2VM as part of your M Package. 2VM lowers your car .4 inches and adds air suspension. 2VP provides the anti-roll in all modes. You have the best of all worlds. Enjoy!
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You should also have 2VM as part of your M Package. 2VM lowers your car .4 inches and adds air suspension. 2VP provides the anti-roll in all modes. You have the best of all worlds. Enjoy!
You sure 2VM lowers the car? 2VM is considered the more comfy and less stiff version of 2VF (Adaptive M). I'm not sure if 2VF lowers anything, but it has a stiffer setting and is more sport tuned. Both are dynamic adapting suspensions with rear air.
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You sure 2VM lowers the car? 2VM is considered the more comfy and less stiff version of 2VF (Adaptive M). I'm not sure if 2VF lowers anything, but it has a stiffer setting and is more sport tuned. Both are dynamic adapting suspensions with rear air.
Thanks for the correction. It was a typo on my part. You are correct. 2VF is with the M Line, not 2VM. And yes, 2VF lowers the car .4 inches.
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TDoes is lower it any? Also is that still air suspension or old fashioned springs?
I have and think it's brilliant.
It doesn't lower the car - at least not in SE trim - and is air suspension.
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As the BMW pdf shows the Adaptive M suspension is a layer on top and is available on the M50d and X5M

The 7SZ option has no mention of it.
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As the BMW pdf shows the Adaptive M suspension is a layer on top and is available on the M50d and X5M

The 7SZ option has no mention of it.
It is different in the US.
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It is different in the US.
So your saying that know where in the world can get "Adaptive M Suspension" other than on a M50d or a X5M, excepts in the US you can on any X5, does not compute.

Is not "Adaptive M Suspension" form part of the control in iDrive to alter the amount of drive split going to the front & rear wheels etc and the availability to see which wheels are driving?

I would like to see the US pdf where it say's you get it with a certain option?
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So your saying that know where in the world can get "Adaptive M Suspension" other than on a M50d or a X5M, excepts in the US you can on any X5, does not compute.

Is not "Adaptive M Suspension" form part of the control in iDrive to alter the amount of drive split going to the front & rear wheels etc and the availability to see which wheels are driving?

I would like to see the US pdf where it say's you get it with a certain option?
Here is the pdf of the US Order sheet. As you can see, the Adaptive M suspension (2VF) is available here as an option as part of the MLine (Order Code ZMM) that is available for the s35i, x35i, x35d and x50i. All have the same option under ZMM that allows them to select:

"ZSU Standard Suspension
or 2VF - Adaptive M Suspension
Includes M foot rest and M door sills."

Then if you order DHP it requires you to order 2VF as an option with ZMM - IF you have ordered the MLine:

"ZDH Dynamic Handling Package
2VM Dynamic Damper Control + rear axle
air suspension
2VP Dynamic Performance Control + Active
Roll Stabilization
7SZ Dynamic Handling Package
ZDH requires ordering 2VF in
combination with ZMM and will delete
2VM.
"

Again, this is available for all X5 models. Hope this answers your question.

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Thanks for all the information

Although I have not managed to test this for myself, I think all your comments have persuaded me to add this to my spec although the cost is starting to get quite high now
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