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      02-08-2014, 11:17 AM   #23
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I think your best solution is these:
Continentals ExtremeContact DWS and a Space Saver Spare tire.

It really sucks that they didn't tell you about the performance tires but I don't think you should pay those crazy prices they are quoting you either or run 19s for half the year. If you just want 20s all year round and not to fuss with changing wheels or tires every season, this is a great solution.
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      02-08-2014, 11:44 AM   #24
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It was pretty well evident in all the literature and on the configurator that the 20's came with the performance tires. I love the look of the 20's and at $950, they are the most reasonably priced option on the whole list. Buy a great all-season set like the Contis, sell the originals as takeoffs at wholesale, and pat yourself on the back for building a fantastic looking X5 and working through the challenge.
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      02-08-2014, 11:47 AM   #25
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^ You haven't seen the nightmare that is the BMW Canada configurator where this option doesn't even exist
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      02-08-2014, 12:54 PM   #26
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WELL THIS IS A COMPLETE MESS:
I only have 2 options:
buy the tires Pirelli Scorpion winter tires that fits the 20" rim for $2,600 +HST
or buy a winter package of 19" for $3,800+ HST (13%)
for option 2, I would be driving with 19" half the year! so I'm not sure what the upgrade to 20" was for??!!!!
I paid $1000 for 20" upgrade, now I have to pay another $4,000 to get a 19" on my car...so $5,000 to get the same 19" set??!!!!
I could have had 19" all season package (standard) for FREE!!! I'm at rage right now!!!
FWIW, I prefer dedicated winter tires over all-seasons anyway. Better not only for traction, but (perhaps more importantly) stopping in both wet/snowy and dry conditions. The rubber is softer than all seasons that can turn into cinder blocks in cold weather.

I'm in the opposite situation. I wasn't sold on the look of the 20's, so stuck with the 19's. But still want a winter set and now, 2 months after delivery, haven't found a winter set I like and also don't like how the 19's fill the rear wheel well with m sport package (they don't at all....). So I am now looking more for a 20" summer set and will turn my 19's into winters. This is the more expensive way to go, since 20's will cost me more than a 19" winter set, and I still need to buy a set of 19" winter tires. I sort of regret not just taking the $950 upgrade ($10 a month in a lease). Even in a purchase, 950 + winter set is less than 0 + summer set + 19" winter tires.

Long story short, while the unexpected expense sucks, I think you may be happy in the end if you get a winter set and see the difference over all-seasons in the winter. Also, you should be able to find a 19" winter set closer to $3000. Problem is even in December when we got our X5, supplies were limited for the new model, at least in 19".
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      02-08-2014, 01:57 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Shaw;*****999
WELL THIS IS A COMPLETE MESS:
I only have 2 options:
buy the tires Pirelli Scorpion winter tires that fits the 20" rim for $2,600 +HST
or buy a winter package of 19" for $3,800+ HST (13%)
for option 2, I would be driving with 19" half the year! so I'm not sure what the upgrade to 20" was for??!!!!
I paid $1000 for 20" upgrade, now I have to pay another $4,000 to get a 19" on my car...so $5,000 to get the same 19" set??!!!!
I could have had 19" all season package (standard) for FREE!!! I'm at rage right now!!!
Hey try kijiji. You can use the previous X5 version rims and tires. Just make sure the tie stored and offset is good.
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      02-08-2014, 02:31 PM   #28
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anyone knows where i can buy this in Canada?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Clar=M%20Sport
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      02-08-2014, 02:51 PM   #29
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The Continental tire is not Run Flat, so the dealer also mentioned we can get the BridgeStone Dueler HP Sport runflat: http://www.bridgestonetire.ca/tire/dueler-hp-sport-as
thoughts?
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      02-08-2014, 02:57 PM   #30
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The continental is a much better reviewed tire especially for ice and snow traction. I would go for those and the space saver spare as I mentioned unless you're set on run flats.
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      02-08-2014, 03:21 PM   #31
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Agree. Continental all the way.
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      02-08-2014, 03:22 PM   #32
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People rave about Continental ExtremeContact DWS. There are many accounts of their wonderful snow capability in even in the 20" size. These are all-season tires that can be used year round. These are not as good as dedicated snow tires, but really, do a search. People that have real-world experience using these in the snow rave about them. These are what I'm getting when we get our X5 in a few weeks. Going straight to the tire shop for a swap.
I am glad I was following this thread because I did the same thing - upgraded to the 20s assuming they would still be all season. Does anyone know if Continental all-season tires have more road noise than the OEM the summer tires?
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      02-08-2014, 04:02 PM   #33
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According to the survey results and reviews on Tirerack.com, they're a very quiet, comfortable tire.
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      02-08-2014, 04:23 PM   #34
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WRT the miscommunication:
Canadian configurator didn't work for me.
US pricing guides state that 20" are performance (summer tires)
Can pricing guides state that 20" are mixed.

I was going to get the 20" for $995, a great price on the surface. Harder to get snows or Nokians for 20", so I declined them. I did not want two sets of wheels.

Dealer should have advised you. Option. Decline the 20's and accept the 19's and save $995.
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      02-08-2014, 05:06 PM   #35
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WRT the miscommunication:
Canadian configurator didn't work for me.
US pricing guides state that 20" are performance (summer tires)
Can pricing guides state that 20" are mixed.

I was going to get the 20" for $995, a great price on the surface. Harder to get snows or Nokians for 20", so I declined them. I did not want two sets of wheels.

Dealer should have advised you. Option. Decline the 20's and accept the 19's and save $995.
The car is already at dealership....my appointment for delivery was today, which I cancelled...can I still do that??? (I mean, decline the 20's and accept the 19", save the $995?)
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      02-08-2014, 06:27 PM   #36
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I am glad I was following this thread because I did the same thing - upgraded to the 20s assuming they would still be all season. Does anyone know if Continental all-season tires have more road noise than the OEM the summer tires?
Generally speaking, rfts have more road noise than non rft.
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      02-09-2014, 12:50 AM   #37
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I wish I had known that earlier....not only you pay a $1,000 extra for the 20", now I have to think about winter tires??!!!
You all are making me nervous as I ordered the 20" tyres for my 3D M Sport thinking they are all season. I have asked my dealer and he says yes they are but having read this thread I'm starting to think I'm going to have to fork out an extra £2K of my hard earned for a set of winter tyres and alloys

Think I will contact BMW UK and ask them.
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      02-09-2014, 06:11 AM   #38
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My build sheet and spec from BMW archive both say All Season tyres with 20" wheels. Car should be in the UK next week so I'll be able to confirm then.
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      02-09-2014, 06:13 AM   #39
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The car is already at dealership....my appointment for delivery was today, which I cancelled...can I still do that??? (I mean, decline the 20's and accept the 19", save the $995?)
Good that you did not p/up car yesterday as the 20's are still new. It will involve three parties, you/parts/sales. In a month customers will want summer tires so parts can sell them and they will also need spares for replacements. If you are a repeat customer, sales will take care of you. You seem interested in protection packages. So make a deal, key is not to NOT use the 20's. Alternatively, buy 19's and sell the 20's on consignment. Easier to deal them if new.
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      02-09-2014, 06:19 AM   #40
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My build sheet and spec from BMW archive both say All Season tyres with 20" wheels. Car should be in the UK next week so I'll be able to confirm then.
Thanks Sean_250, please do.

Build Sheet? Did you get that once car was in production?
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      02-09-2014, 06:41 AM   #41
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^^^ UK orders:
Hope you guys get as spec'd A/S. You may want to check the option code ( and VIN decoder)
For N/America 20's are 451, 469M, 491 supposedly Perf/tires.
For SC production, I assume that they would a different number to denote what tire to install ( A/S vs perf.). Hope this gives more clarity.
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^^^ UK orders:
Hope you guys get as spec'd A/S. You may want to check the option code ( and VIN decoder)
For N/America 20's are 451, 469M, 491 supposedly Perf/tires.
For SC production, I assume that they would a different number to denote what tire to install ( A/S vs perf.). Hope this gives more clarity.
Hi Barcelona, option code in UK is 2PW for the 20" 469M alloys.
No mention of whether these are AS or performance tyres
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      02-09-2014, 07:06 AM   #43
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Hi Barcelona, option code in UK is 2PW for the 20" 469M alloys.
No mention of whether these are AS or performance tyres
Yes this is just another issue that lacks clarity.
http://www.bmwarchiv.de/vin/

eg. Type in 0c03550, (all numbers except c).
Note KR63 is N/America destination.


S2PWA
BMW LM Rad M Doppelspeiche 469 BMW LA wheel M Double Spoke 469

Try playing around and see if you can find one for your destination.

Note: For my A/S 19's, it did not say A/S: only "S2H4A BMW LM Rad Vielspeiche 448.

Hope it helps.

Last edited by barcelona; 02-09-2014 at 07:07 AM.. Reason: typo within a minute
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      02-09-2014, 07:18 AM   #44
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No - my dealer sent it me so I could check against the sales invoice. It looks as though it's come directly from the dealer's system.

Code for All-season Tyres is 927 if it helps

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Thanks Sean_250, please do.

Build Sheet? Did you get that once car was in production?
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