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      07-31-2014, 11:20 AM   #1
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M-Sport suspension...

Ok,

Can anyone actually say weather the M-Sport suspension becomes "sport" or stays"comfort" even when put on "sport plus"? I don't feel the difference! My 2012 335i is different, you can feel how the suspension tightens and I can feel the road big time.

I asked different people at dealer and everyone gives me a different response...

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I thought that Sport+ was Sport + (-DSC).

So, theoretically would wouldn't feel a difference between Sport and Sport+ until you did something questionable (or go around a skid pad, or do hot laps, or do hard corners on gravel).
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The suspension does not change unless you get Adaptive M Sport Suspension option or DHP
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The suspension does not change unless you get Adaptive M Sport Suspension option or DHP
Really?! Not even the sales people know what they are talking about! They said, yes, it changes the suspension...

Very disappointed at BMW and their sucky service! I have the M-Sport package... But didn't know I had to get the M-sport adaptive suspension. My 335i came with the M-sport package which included adaptive suspension.
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      07-31-2014, 01:55 PM   #5
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Yes, the Sport and Sport+ will add more throttle response, but not change the actual suspension.
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Really?! Not even the sales people know what they are talking about! They said, yes, it changes the suspension...

Very disappointed at BMW and their sucky service! I have the M-Sport package... But didn't know I had to get the M-sport adaptive suspension. My 335i came with the M-sport package which included adaptive suspension.
Agreed, bad on BMW's part for not making the Adaptive M suspension as part of the M Sport package. Instead you have to pay $900 extra , at least in the US. Also they don't make it very clear that without the Adaptive suspension, you won't feel any difference when changing modes. I had to verify with a BMW Genius that the adaptive suspension actually will make a difference.
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      07-31-2014, 04:33 PM   #7
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That's what I thought too, but then I realize that it is separate option.
They should've been a package with the M Sport.
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With the Adaptive M, I can definitely feel the suspension firm up when in Sport mode...
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      07-31-2014, 05:26 PM   #9
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That's what I thought too, but then I realize that it is separate option.
They should've been a package with the M Sport.
I never really use it, but I was trying it, and i don't feel anything! 900dlls is nothing to add!l the M-sport adaptive. Very upset! I will send a nasty letter the the top corporate people in regards to that! Everyone at the dealership said "yes, of course it works, you might now feel it because it's an SAV, not a car." I knew size didn't have anything to do with it. Oh well!
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      07-31-2014, 05:58 PM   #10
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I was lucky, as I get this option with my 3rd Row Package.
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I was lucky, as I get this option with my 3rd Row Package.
Actually I don't think that's the same thing. The 3rd row option comes with the rear axle air suspension, which I believe is not the same thing as the adaptive M suspension. Those who know better can correct me if I'm wrong.
The M adaptive works on all 4 wheels, not just the rear axle.

Also I don't think you can get the adaptive M suspension unless you also get the M Sport package first.
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Adaptive suspension is all four wheels but this is the option package description on mine:

M Sport
> High-gloss Roof Rails
> Roof rails in Satin Aluminum
> Anthracite headliner
> Shadowline exterior trim
> Sport seats
> Multi-contour seats
> Sport automatic transmission with shift paddles
> Adaptive M Suspension + rear axle air suspension
> Aerodynamic kit
> M steering wheel

Makes no sense. My car does not have adaptive suspension nor does it have rear axle air suspension (don't have third row seat either)...
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Adaptive suspension is all four wheels but this is the option package description on mine:

M Sport
> High-gloss Roof Rails
> Roof rails in Satin Aluminum
> Anthracite headliner
> Shadowline exterior trim
> Sport seats
> Multi-contour seats
> Sport automatic transmission with shift paddles
> Adaptive M Suspension + rear axle air suspension
> Aerodynamic kit
> M steering wheel

Makes no sense. My car does not have adaptive suspension nor does it have rear axle air suspension (don't have third row seat either)...
I believe those are the options available to M-Sport. It also mentions both Sport Seats and MC Seats -- as one cannot have both, it would appear they are listed as options for the M-Sport package.
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So the Msport package is all cosmetic and you get the basic suspension that the rest of the lines get. If you elect the $900 adaptive M suspension upgrade thats when you get the adjustable shocks around all 4 corners with the rears being air suspension?

For those who have this upgrade is ride/handling noticeably different between sport and comfort modes?

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So the Msport package is all cosmetic and you get the basic suspension that the rest of the lines get. If you elect the $900 adaptive M suspension upgrade thats when you get the adjustable shocks around all 4 corners with the rears being air suspension?

For those who have this upgrade is ride/handling noticeably different between sport and comfort modes?

Alan
Yes there is a big difference. Comfort nice and soft, sport nice and tight and firm.

UK MSports have this as standard.
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Yep, got to read the fine print!

I ASSumed if you got the Msport package, that the adaptive Msport suspension is part of the package, but if you wanted to purchase is separately, you could check it! After reading this, I am bummed out!
Whenever I pressed the sport or sport+ it "seemed" like it firmed up, but obviously all in the head.
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Yep, got to read the fine print!

I ASSumed if you got the Msport package, that the adaptive Msport suspension is part of the package, but if you wanted to purchase is separately, you could check it! After reading this, I am bummed out!
Whenever I pressed the sport or sport+ it "seemed" like it firmed up, but obviously all in the head.
I know the feelint! I would tell people "let me change it to sport. Do you feel it? It feels Sports, right?" And people said, i Dont feel the change...


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one of the posters up there is correct. if you get the Adaptive M Suspension with rear air, then there is a definite noticeable difference between comfort and sport. I have it on mine, and it was $900 well worth it.
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one of the posters up there is correct. if you get the Adaptive M Suspension with rear air, then there is a definite noticeable difference between comfort and sport. I have it on mine, and it was $900 well worth it.
My dealer also had no idea that the M sport didn't come with the M suspension without an option. If not for you guys here, I never would have noticed and would have been pissed that I missed this option. To make it even better, the configurator is messed up on this, it shows it as a 0 dollar option, it's actually 900 bucks (IIRC). <sigh>

How can we know so much more about the cars than someone who's JOB it is to know about the cars? That's just sad.
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while on the subject.. what exactly is the difference between sport and sport+ on a standard suspension and when should each be used?
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Here's what BMW USA told me today.

The M Sport has adaptive sport suspension and with NO rear seat, is simply a type of progressive and more sport-like spring/shock set up - the sport button has no affect to the suspension. If you get the rear seat, you get rear air shocks for the rear of the car to make up for any additional weight, so the car maintains control - this is automatic and not controllable from the cockpit. For $900 more, you can get the dynamic handling package that is activated by the switch inside and has two settings. In addition, each corner of the car has computer adjusted shocks, depending on the setting, cornering, body roll (adjustable sway bar), accel and so on. This is the only option where the sport button affects the ride of the car.

The luxury line without any suspension package gets the softest, non-adaptive ride.


PS - it took three people to explain it to me and I'm not completely confident in the above, but it seems to make the most sense.
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Here's what BMW USA told me today.

The M Sport has adaptive sport suspension and with NO rear seat, is simply a type of progressive and more sport-like spring/shock set up - the sport button has no affect to the suspension. If you get the rear seat, you get rear air shocks for the rear of the car to make up for any additional weight, so the car maintains control - this is automatic and not controllable from the cockpit. For $900 more, you can get the dynamic handling package that is activated by the switch inside and has two settings. In addition, each corner of the car has computer adjusted shocks, depending on the setting, cornering, body roll (adjustable sway bar), accel and so on. This is the only option where the sport button affects the ride of the car.

The luxury line without any suspension package gets the softest, non-adaptive ride.


PS - it took three people to explain it to me and I'm not completely confident in the above, but it seems to make the most sense.
I'm not completely confident in the above either. In fact now I'm more confused. First of all I don't think the dynamic handling package is the same as the Adaptive M suspension. Second , it's not a $900 option, but $4500 according to bmwusa.com !
I was told by my sales manager that he has the adaptive M suspension in his 3 series GT and it DOES make a difference when switching modes. I also spoke to a BMW Genius while at the dealer, and he confirmed it too.
It seems people are getting lots of different variations of answers . Sigh...
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