new hear question on the X5 5.0

[2016sx5]

New here question on the X5 5.0


I have a 13 X5d low miles no problems except bmw recalls

Have come to find no a fan of the diesel. Don't like the sound.
Since I only drive around town receive no benefit from a diesel
Also have the sport pkg and 20 inch wheels and do not like the
heavy steering feel. Want more of a luxury feel

Why 5.0 I just want a V8. Have other BMW.s with the 6cyl and
are adequate but I just want a V8.

Question
How are the 2016 v8 in terms of reliability. Know past talk about
battery issues and valve-train failures. Has BMW fixed this or
is this still a 5.0 issue.

Thanks

[lowlevelhell]

It's a 50i, not a 5.0. The engine is 4.4 liters. 5.0 is Mustang talk.

You definitely receive benefit from a diesel on short trips. The diesel's acceleration from 0-50 is better than the 6-cylinder gasser. For short trips, you're enjoying the benefit of that torque. If you care about fuel prices (they will go back up by the way), the 50i will kill you in the long run, especially around town. Expect 10-12 mpg in town.

As far as reliability, the sad fact is that Bimmer V8s have never been particularly reliable. Great performers, yes. But as far as the battery issues, no you still get a battery swap at service (this was a factor in buying our 740 instead of a 750). As I mentioned in another thread, my long-time service advisor joked the other day "BMW V8s are great...so long as they're under warranty." Between the oil consumption issues and the debacle of total top-end rebuilds on the E70s, I've owned my last BMW V8. It isn't their bailiwick from a consumer standpoint. In 5-10 years, they probably won't offer them in the US outside of M cars (bold prediction) thanks to reliability, CAFE, and the ability to make power from diesels and forced induction sixes.

[2016sx5]

Thanks for the reply

Never owned a Ford didn't know was Ford talk, Have a Corvette

Gas price is no concern. Around town, drive my 4x4 GMC,
12 is about what it does.

Heard many being pleased with the diesel torque but finding my
around town is stop sign to stop sign over to Home Depot or wal mart.
thinking v8 really just for sound. Like the vettes.

Good to hear the comment from techs. What many are saying about
the diesel if out of warranty. My type of driving will eventually lead
to carbon and expensive out of warranty fix. why starting too look,
7 month left. Sound like in 4 years will be back where am with the
diesel, wanting to trade before warranty gone to keep from an expensive
repair bill.

Thanks

[lowlevelhell]

Originally Posted by 2013d

Thanks for the reply

Never owned a Ford didn't know was Ford talk, Have a Corvette

Gas price is no concern. Around town, drive my 4x4 GMC,
12 is about what it does.

Heard many being pleased with the diesel torque but finding my
around town is stop sign to stop sign over to Home Depot or wal mart.
thinking v8 really just for sound. Like the vettes.

Good to hear the comment from techs. What many are saying about
the diesel if out of warranty. My type of driving will eventually lead
to carbon and expensive out of warranty fix. why starting too look,
7 month left. Sound like in 4 years will be back where am with the
diesel, wanting to trade before warranty gone to keep from an expensive
repair bill.

Thanks

To my knowledge, there have been no systemic issues with the diesels that rival the large-scale problems with the V8s. If avoiding cost is your concern, opting out of the N57 for a V8 isn't a good way to get there.

[2016sx5]

diesel motor has been fine. Its the exhaust side. 3 Ox sensors,
new catalyst, downpipe, urea tank. They broke the plastic motor cover,
which had nothing to do with motor was just off so much.

if had gotten the gas 6 be keeping it longer

That why posted wanted to hear opinions on the V8

[patrobX5]

Originally Posted by lowlevelhell

It's a 50i, not a 5.0. The engine is 4.4 liters. 5.0 is Mustang talk.

[kanvas]

I have the 50i with only 17,000 miles, so I can't share much about any issues with the engine because there haven't been any issues so far. If you really like the V8 then get it. Sure, it might have some issues down the road but what car doesn't? I've had the X5 4.4i V8 before and it was bulletproof so I guess I'm lucky that I've had only good things to say about BMW V8s so far.

[alphaod]

I had N62 on my previous X5, hit about 120k and didn't have issues with regular maintenance. Current car with N63tu about 11k, so far so good. Oil consumption very minimum especially compared to what a lot of people say about these motors.

Get about 12-14 mpg around town. Hit 24 mph highest in highway mostly around 19-20. Average for me is around 17-18 combined cycle.

[Kewl X5]

All F15 X5 regardless of engine type has to do battery swap every other oil engines. It is NOT only the V8s...

[lowlevelhell]

Originally Posted by Kewl X5

All F15 X5 regardless of engine type has to do battery swap every other oil engines. It is NOT only the V8s...

The N57 and N55 are to swapped every other change (if not swapped within last 12 months).

The N63 is to be swapped at every oil change (if not within last 12).

Your swap interval should end up the same. The V8s are the original cause, due to higher power demands.

[Kewl X5]

Originally Posted by lowlevelhell

The N57 and N55 are to swapped every other change (if not swapped within last 12 months).

The N63 is to be swapped at every oil change (if not within last 12).

Your swap interval should end up the same. The V8s are the original cause, due to higher power demands.

You are correct about the N63 needing battery replacement at every oil change BUT, NONE of the F15 was ever sold with N63 V8. The 2014-2016 F15 50i has the N63TU aka N63T (technical update) V8 so the battery swap is at every other oil change just like the N55 6 cylinder gas and N57 diesel models. Just want to make sure everyone gets the most accurate information regarding the F15 X5.

So does not matter which F15 X5 model you get, they all require the same battery swap at the same exact interval.

Here the link to the actual service information bulletin:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=12

F15 (X5)
Produced from 8/2013
With the N55, N57, or N63T engine

VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AN N55, N57, N63T, S63, OR N74 ENGINE
This procedure only pertains to the models listed in the attachment (based on the production date) that are equipped with an N55, N57, N63T, and N74 engine.

At engine oil service "counter # 2"only, covered under the 4 year/50,000 miles BMW Maintenance Program:
Perform a Key Read on the vehicle and check to see if an engine oil service is "Recommended" or "Due" by miles or will be required in the next 60 days or less.
Confirm the battery was not replaced previously during the last 12 months.
If the results of steps 1 and 2 allow, replace the battery together with performing the engine oil service.

Important note: Do not perform an energy diagnosis for this battery replacement.

Refer to ISTA Repair Instruction 61 21 010, "Remove and install or replace battery."
Register the new battery using ISTA. Refer to SI B61 15 12. Select the "Enter battery replacement: same capacity," and then the replacement is finished.

The N63 was in the E70 X5 (2nd generation X5) and earlier 3/2010-6/2013 F10 550i models....which would need battery change at every oil change.

The N63T is in the 2014-2016 F15 X5. (Current 3rd generation X5)

[lowlevelhell]

Originally Posted by Kewl X5

You are correct about the N63 needing battery replacement at every oil change BUT, NONE of the F15 was ever sold with N63 V8. The 2014-2016 F15 50i has the N63TU aka N63T (technical update) V8 so the battery swap is at every other oil change just like the N55 6 cylinder gas and N57 diesel models. Just want to make sure everyone gets the most accurate information regarding the F15 X5.

So does not matter which F15 X5 model you get, they all require the same battery swap at the same exact interval.

Here the link to the actual service information bulletin:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=12

F15 (X5)
Produced from 8/2013
With the N55, N57, or N63T engine

VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AN N55, N57, N63T, S63, OR N74 ENGINE
This procedure only pertains to the models listed in the attachment (based on the production date) that are equipped with an N55, N57, N63T, and N74 engine.

At engine oil service "counter # 2"only, covered under the 4 year/50,000 miles BMW Maintenance Program:
Perform a Key Read on the vehicle and check to see if an engine oil service is "Recommended" or "Due" by miles or will be required in the next 60 days or less.
Confirm the battery was not replaced previously during the last 12 months.
If the results of steps 1 and 2 allow, replace the battery together with performing the engine oil service.

Important note: Do not perform an energy diagnosis for this battery replacement.

Refer to ISTA Repair Instruction 61 21 010, "Remove and install or replace battery."
Register the new battery using ISTA. Refer to SI B61 15 12. Select the "Enter battery replacement: same capacity," and then the replacement is finished.

The N63 was in the E70 X5 (2nd generation X5) and earlier 3/2010-6/2013 F10 550i models....which would need battery change at every oil change.

The N63T is in the 2014-2016 F15 X5. (Current 3rd generation X5)

Good catch! I forgot they swapped to the TU in the F15.

I think with the "if not replaced in the last 12 months" provision, you'd end up with the same interval regardless. Who drives less than 10k a year?!

I'm at 22k in 10 months

[Kewl X5]

Originally Posted by lowlevelhell

Good catch! I forgot they swapped to the TU in the F15.

I think with the "if not replaced in the last 12 months" provision, you'd end up with the same interval regardless. Who drives less than 10k a year?!

I'm at 22k in 10 months

Wow! I thought I was bad. Just barely hit 20K miles but in 13 months and so far so good with N63tu 4.4L (50i)...yes, not 5.0....

In terms of reliability and cost to maintain, I agree the V8s will be more costly. The N63 engine was a dud of a V8. Hopefully, the N63tu will fare better than the N63 and time will tell. However, in my honest opinion, none of the current BMW turbo engines will be as reliable as their previously normally aspirated inline-6/4 cylinder engines...

[spike5150]

I'm at 15k miles in 8 months with no issues. Have not had to fill up on oil either.

[Kzang]

Here is my take... if you can afford the V8, get it... you will enjoy the power immensely regardless if you drive around town or on the highway. If you can stretch your budget even more, then get the X5M... its a completely different experience that you will never get with the 50i, 35d, 35i.

Life is just too short and not many people even keep their cars past 5 years.. most get the itch to get a new one by this time. If there is an issue with your V8 for the first 4 years, BMW will take care of it.. the last remaining year you can take the risk and just enjoy the hell out of it. Rinse and repeat..

[alphaod]

If you think to you may have battery issues, just get the wall charger and hook that up once month.

[Doanster]

OP, just get the 50i and be done with it since you stated from the get-go: "I just want a V8". Battery issues and what not surely aren't ever going to sway your decision. It's not like the V8 "blows up" over time. The rest is just the risk we all take after the warranty has expired.

[lowlevelhell]

Originally Posted by Kewl X5

Wow! I thought I was bad. Just barely hit 20K miles but in 13 months and so far so good with N63tu 4.4L (50i)...yes, not 5.0....

In terms of reliability and cost to maintain, I agree the V8s will be more costly. The N63 engine was a dud of a V8. Hopefully, the N63tu will fare better than the N63 and time will tell. However, in my honest opinion, none of the current BMW turbo engines will be as reliable as their previously normally aspirated inline-6/4 cylinder engines...

Time will tell, and hopefully for the better. I have a B58 in another vehicle and it's a lovely motor, but they all are at the outset...

As for mileage, 49 miles one way to work will do that. I rack up 500 miles a week just getting there and back.

[2016sx5]

Well,,, my saying just want a V8. Didn't work. I test drove 3, and 2 3.5i.
Told the salesmen sure like the sound of the V8. His reply, which of the
cars did you like driving the most. Had to admit was the 35i. We did not
take the cars out, where could open up, because wanted to drive the route
where 90% of my driving is. In town, urban.. Maybe because the 6 is
lighter in front and felt better in the city, it didn't feel like past 6cyl.
He told me has many come in going V8 V8,,, gets them in a 6, pleased.

For rumble, can start up my GMC Sierra with the Corsa's LOL


So traded the diesel. Night and day, the new steering is great. Made the
2013 feel like truck. Not missing the clatter of the diesel. My diesel on the
best mpg was 25. The 35i is better. Salesman told me all had to say was
steering on the 2013 and knew would be sold on the 2016.

What got was a Space Grey, White interior, with some kind of M pkg. But
not the wide wheels. Still like BMW X5's best. Did test a Porsche, Lexus
and a mammoth Escalade.

[Kewl X5]

Originally Posted by 2013d

Well,,, my saying just want a V8. Didn't work. I test drove 3, and 2 3.5i.
Told the salesmen sure like the sound of the V8. His reply, which of the
cars did you like driving the most. Had to admit was the 35i. We did not
take the cars out, where could open up, because wanted to drive the route
where 90% of my driving is. In town, urban.. Maybe because the 6 is
lighter in front and felt better in the city, it didn't feel like past 6cyl.
He told me has many come in going V8 V8,,, gets them in a 6, pleased.

For rumble, can start up my GMC Sierra with the Corsa's LOL


So traded the diesel. Night and day, the new steering is great. Made the
2013 feel like truck. Not missing the clatter of the diesel. My diesel on the
best mpg was 25. The 35i is better. Salesman told me all had to say was
steering on the 2013 and knew would be sold on the 2016.

What got was a Space Grey, White interior, with some kind of M pkg. But
not the wide wheels. Still like BMW X5's best. Did test a Porsche, Lexus
and a mammoth Escalade.

Welcome to the F15 family....congrats!!