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Looks like you have limited experience then, because others who have had experiences as well beg to differ.. myself included. As mentioned above, 1st year model car owners are beta testers with warranty. Now this doesn't mean that every single first year model car that leaves the production line will have problems... apparently your M3 wasn't affected... you are having that if it didn't happen to me then it shouldn't happen to anyone else syndrome. But this is common knowledge in the automotive world... I guess you just missed the memo.
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except bmw broke the steering on the F15.
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endemic to all s65 AND s85 motors. So not a 2008 model year issue. That was my point. Plus that survey I'm talking about was a 2011 survey, so that was before the current hysteria.
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Again, I'm talking specifically about BMWs here...Still waiting for concrete evidence. I suppose someone said "alot" of F15 owners were getting CELs early. Not enough information though. 35i? 50i? D?
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E46 M3 rod bearings, E9x HPFP, E9X DCT issues, F8X Drive Shaft and Subframe bolts. Just off the top of my head but in general I like to avoid first year new model and that is not BMW exclusive... All marques.
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You can go back to posts back when the F15 just came out and you can see what we are talking about. Its not limited to BMW or just the X5 either.
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^ I briefly skimmed the thread. Not many pages considering it's 3.5 years old now. What I gathered is, issues are consistently found through out the years 2014-today. I don't see a lot of common issues other than "interior rattles".
I'm still not convinced on the 1st year model bug specifically with BMWs or F15s. Again the only past issue in recent memory that may be able support your theory that this effects BMWs would be the N54 fuel pump issue...maybe. But that's a N54 issue, not a E9x or something issue...You buy a N54 regardless of year, you're screwed (until they fixed it). Same with N63. Now those who claim this happens with Audis and what not I believe you....but not through my experience with BMWs. As others have said, at least with the F15, it wasn't a major change under the skin. Same transmissions (except for the D), same motors, slight tweaks to turbos, new FRM, new navi... it's not like Volvo or Jaguar coming out with a brand spanking new concept of the XC90 or F-type where most everything is new.
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....Fine, but we're not talking about EVERY make and model here are we?
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The F15 had assorted electronic gremlins when it released but it was more reliable than some past first year BMWs I've had. Oddly enough, my 2017 has some issues since iDrive was upgraded. I need to take it in for another update.
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the f15 shared a lot of parts with the e70, so its not as bad as some of you say. the engines and drivetrains are a carry over for the most part from the e70.
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