BMS / Burger Tuning Stage 1 on 5.0i

r33_RGSport · 01-12-2015, 12:34 PM

BMS sometime shipped the unit with removable extension, sometime with a longer cable.
If it come with extension, you can just not use the extension.
Usually if I know that it is going to be installed to an X5, I don't ship the extension to avoid the confusion.

eyeloveteeth · 01-12-2015, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by r33

Unfortunately, since it is very very easy, I didn't make the PDF installation steps.
You can refer to BMS installation instruction.
http://www.burgertuning.com/instruct...e1_install.pdf

For the X5 xDrive50i, use the page 12.
The instruction is for F10 550 or F12 650. The only difference, on the X5, the sensor is facing outside, so it is much easier as you don't need to route the harness away from the motor or even open the engine cover.

I see that, thanks for being so helpful, even for a non-buyer. So while this is no APR tune, it is also 1/4 the price for 1/2 as much power lol. Also, thanks to the PDF, i know i can pull it out and reset whenever i want to.

Looks like i'm gonna start negotiating for the 50i!

r33_RGSport · 01-12-2015, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by eyeloveteeth

I see that, thanks for being so helpful, even for a non-buyer. So while this is no APR tune, it is also 1/4 the price for 1/2 as much power lol. Also, thanks to the PDF, i know i can pull it out and reset whenever i want to.

Looks like i'm gonna start negotiating for the 50i!

opasha · 01-12-2015, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eyeloveteeth

I see that, thanks for being so helpful, even for a non-buyer. So while this is no APR tune, it is also 1/4 the price for 1/2 as much power lol. Also, thanks to the PDF, i know i can pull it out and reset whenever i want to.

Looks like i'm gonna start negotiating for the 50i!

Go back to the last page, and you'll see that I showed you the full install for the BMS by a member and my install of the RaceChip.

eyeloveteeth · 01-12-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by opasha

Go back to the last page, and you'll see that I showed you the full install for the BMS by a member and my install of the RaceChip.

Yeah, i think we're all posting so close to each other, i type one thing and read the next tab to find out you've already answered but then i already submitted the other post LOL.

Thanks though Opasha, you're awesome

opasha · 01-12-2015, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by eyeloveteeth

Yeah, i think we're all posting so close to each other, i type one thing and read the next tab to find out you've already answered but then i already submitted the other post LOL.

Thanks though Opasha, you're awesome

It's all good, it happens, lol. You're very welcome and best of luck on your purchase. Ask the members on any questions you may have on your build. Just make a new thread, and people will comment and help you out. It's a great community of knowledgeable and friendly members.

bluelodge400 · 01-13-2015, 09:36 AM

I have now put close to 6000 miles on this tune and so far I have not had 1 problem.

At around 3500 miles I increased the BMS tune setting by 1 notch. In doing so, I noticed a slight performance gain but nothing significant. The stock setting BMS comes with is just fine and not really worth adjusting if you do not have any other mods.

r33_RGSport · 01-30-2015, 09:38 PM

Just got my restocking order.

I also got RaceChip now. Diesel and Gas version.

nvars · 01-31-2015, 12:54 AM

Which one is better the JB4 or the Dinan stage1?

r33_RGSport · 01-31-2015, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nvars

Which one is better the JB4 or the Dinan stage1?

To compare the 2, the JB4 is better.
JB4 have multiple maps and has CAN access.
Dinan Stage 1 is similar as JB Stage 1 without burning hole in your wallet.

42pilot · 01-31-2015, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by r33

To compare the 2, the JB4 is better.
JB4 have multiple maps and has CAN access.
Dinan Stage 1 is similar as JB Stage 1 without burning hole in your wallet.

Ummm.... there's a bit more to it than that.

r33_RGSport · 01-31-2015, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 42pilot

Quote:

Originally Posted by r33

To compare the 2, the JB4 is better.
JB4 have multiple maps and has CAN access.
Dinan Stage 1 is similar as JB Stage 1 without burning hole in your wallet.

Ummm.... there's a bit more to it than that.

Do give us the details, not just a hint.

42pilot · 02-01-2015, 05:14 PM

If I understand the Burger tune correctly, lets start that it is not 50 state street legal. With the Burger, you'll need to remove it before you have your car serviced or you risk voiding your warranty (like my RaceChip). Next, Dinan warrants your engine in the event of a problem. And lastly, Dinan actually tunes the motor with the assistance (or at least the access) of BMW's OEM mapping. In fact, the tune can be installed by BMW. That means they look at everything from MAF to timing to VGT (two of them on the 5.0 - 4.6L - motor), to injection, every other relevant sensor and so on. I suspect (no, I don't know for sure) Burger modifies signals without the assistance of BMW and leaves the ECU to throw a CEL to protect the motor.

Whether it's worth it in terms of cost is a personal decision and/or whether you own the car or lease it. Considering the long-view, there is only one option in my opinion.

Bigtop · 02-05-2015, 03:51 PM

Just put 60% 100 Octane then 40% 91 Octane mix in my car that has the BMS N63tu tune. Holy crap! With the BMS tune with regular premium it makes a huge difference to the stock F15 50i car. What I was not expecting was the felt difference again with the higher octane gas.

I did not even change the tune adjustment setting, just left it as the default and the car just goes to warp factor 10. Huge fun.

onfireX5 · 08-30-2015, 03:08 PM

Since it has been out for a while, any more updates on the BMS tune on a 50 ? Tia

r33_RGSport · 08-30-2015, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by onfireX5

Since it has been out for a while, any more updates on the BMS tune on a 50 ? Tia

What update are you after?

onfireX5 · 08-30-2015, 04:05 PM

Just part throttle changes, reliability and if anyone is still using it with some miles on it (+6000ish). If you had to guess, how many have been sold to all lines, X5, 7 series etc. with n63tu ? +500 , +1000.

r33_RGSport · 08-30-2015, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by onfireX5

Just part throttle changes, reliability and if anyone is still using it with some miles on it (+6000ish). If you had to guess, how many have been sold to all lines, X5, 7 series etc. with n63tu ? +500 , +1000.

AFAIK, they are happy with the product.
In fact I just met up with cy07 today, he even told me that he is very happy with it and been running fine.
As far how many units has been sold, I personally has sold 100+ unit already.

onfireX5 · 08-30-2015, 05:21 PM

That's good news !

X5Jouster · 08-31-2015, 09:01 AM

the tune is fantastic....now its not the end all tune for this engine, we still need customization attributes, like throttle maps, boost pressures and timing. but for now the rotatory dial has given me enough customization to make my smile bigger then the first day of purchase....i have many thousands with my BMS tune, mostly factory level, a few thousand with two clicks increase... it is truly an enormous improvement for what it is.

this and a sprintbooster throttle booster, has given me the level of sport i expected

onfireX5 · 08-31-2015, 09:17 AM

Thanks for the feedback. Good to hear from an end user.

MX55 · 10-26-2015, 07:52 AM

Does BMS N63tu tune also work for 2016 X5 5.0?

01-12-2015, 12:34 PM	#89
r33_RGSport General 12916 Rep 18,685 Posts Drives: G09 XM, G05 X5 40, 991.2 T Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (6)	BMS sometime shipped the unit with removable extension, sometime with a longer cable. If it come with extension, you can just not use the extension. Usually if I know that it is going to be installed to an X5, I don't ship the extension to avoid the confusion. __________________ Email:sales@rgsport.com \| IG:RGSport_USA \| Web:RGSportShop.com PM for Everyday DEALS!! MSS • iSweep • RaceChip • Sterckenn • AutoTecknic • Akrapovic • Vossen Wheels • Eventuri Active Autowerke • KW • H&R • Ohlins • Remus • and more...
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bluelodge400 Private First Class 31 Rep 111 Posts Drives: '21 X5M-C, '19 Cayenne Turbo Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hillsborough, CA iTrader: (0)	I have now put close to 6000 miles on this tune and so far I have not had 1 problem. At around 3500 miles I increased the BMS tune setting by 1 notch. In doing so, I noticed a slight performance gain but nothing significant. The stock setting BMS comes with is just fine and not really worth adjusting if you do not have any other mods.
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r33_RGSport General 12916 Rep 18,685 Posts Drives: G09 XM, G05 X5 40, 991.2 T Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (6)	Just got my restocking order. I also got RaceChip now. Diesel and Gas version. __________________ Email:sales@rgsport.com \| IG:RGSport_USA \| Web:RGSportShop.com PM for Everyday DEALS!! MSS • iSweep • RaceChip • Sterckenn • AutoTecknic • Akrapovic • Vossen Wheels • Eventuri Active Autowerke • KW • H&R • Ohlins • Remus • and more...
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01-31-2015, 12:54 AM	#97
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02-01-2015, 05:14 PM	#101
42pilot Captain 591 Rep 710 Posts Drives: 2014 X5 35d MSport Join Date: May 2014 Location: GA iTrader: (0)	If I understand the Burger tune correctly, lets start that it is not 50 state street legal. With the Burger, you'll need to remove it before you have your car serviced or you risk voiding your warranty (like my RaceChip). Next, Dinan warrants your engine in the event of a problem. And lastly, Dinan actually tunes the motor with the assistance (or at least the access) of BMW's OEM mapping. In fact, the tune can be installed by BMW. That means they look at everything from MAF to timing to VGT (two of them on the 5.0 - 4.6L - motor), to injection, every other relevant sensor and so on. I suspect (no, I don't know for sure) Burger modifies signals without the assistance of BMW and leaves the ECU to throw a CEL to protect the motor. Whether it's worth it in terms of cost is a personal decision and/or whether you own the car or lease it. Considering the long-view, there is only one option in my opinion. __________________ Sold: 2014 X5 xDrive35d MSport
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02-05-2015, 03:51 PM	#102
Bigtop Private First Class 41 Rep 159 Posts Drives: 2020 G05 M50i Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Camelot iTrader: (0)	Just put 60% 100 Octane then 40% 91 Octane mix in my car that has the BMS N63tu tune. Holy crap! With the BMS tune with regular premium it makes a huge difference to the stock F15 50i car. What I was not expecting was the felt difference again with the higher octane gas. I did not even change the tune adjustment setting, just left it as the default and the car just goes to warp factor 10. Huge fun.
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08-30-2015, 03:08 PM	#103
onfireX5 Brigadier General 3618 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	Since it has been out for a while, any more updates on the BMS tune on a 50 ? Tia
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onfireX5 Brigadier General 3618 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	Just part throttle changes, reliability and if anyone is still using it with some miles on it (+6000ish). If you had to guess, how many have been sold to all lines, X5, 7 series etc. with n63tu ? +500 , +1000.
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08-30-2015, 05:21 PM	#107
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08-31-2015, 09:01 AM	#108
X5Jouster Lieutenant 110 Rep 525 Posts Drives: X5 xDrive50I Msport Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Boca Raton FL iTrader: (0)	the tune is fantastic....now its not the end all tune for this engine, we still need customization attributes, like throttle maps, boost pressures and timing. but for now the rotatory dial has given me enough customization to make my smile bigger then the first day of purchase....i have many thousands with my BMS tune, mostly factory level, a few thousand with two clicks increase... it is truly an enormous improvement for what it is. this and a sprintbooster throttle booster, has given me the level of sport i expected __________________
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08-31-2015, 09:17 AM	#109
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10-26-2015, 07:52 AM	#110
MX55 New Member 4 Rep 8 Posts Drives: BMW 2013 X3 2.8 & 2016 X5 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Indiana iTrader: (0)	Does BMS N63tu tune also work for 2016 X5 5.0?
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