Lighting Package

Kzang · 03-11-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HansRobert

Please excuse my ignorance but what is "CC with a chip"?

Credit card with a micro chip for security.

HansRobert · 03-11-2016, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kzang

Credit card with a micro chip for security.

OK that makes sense. I was trying to think of it related to the vehicle and I guess that's why I couldn't make it fit!

Kzang · 03-11-2016, 05:32 PM

Yeah, sorry for going off topic, but that was the only example I could think of

lowlevelhell · 03-13-2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kzang

Probably because we are slow in advancement

For example Europe and other countries have had CC with a chip for many years and we just recently started to convert to them

Sadly that was due to a squabble between vendors, payment networks, and banks as to who would bear the cost of conversion...even as we lost millions to fraud. Technically I believe it's still not a requirement, but vendors who don't utilize the chip readers are liable for fraud now instead of the payment network and the issuing bank.

It's worth reading up on the legacy of sealed beam headlights in the US if you really want to hate the DOT. Remember when ever car had round or rectangular headlights only? Thanks, USDOT.

HansRobert · 03-15-2016, 08:59 PM

As stated I've ordered the Lighting Package.

Should I get it "coded" to make the anti-dazzle active does that negate the need for switching (either automatically or manually) between high beams and low beams?

MattBianco · 03-15-2016, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HansRobert

As stated I've ordered the Lighting Package.

Should I get it "coded" to make the anti-dazzle active does that negate the need for switching (either automatically or manually) between high beams and low beams?

Yes, code. Without it the investment in the package does not offer good value. You will be very impressed with the low beams overall.

HansRobert · 03-16-2016, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MattBianco

Yes, code. Without it the investment in the package does not offer good value. You will be very impressed with the low beams overall.

I should have said "If I get it coded". In other words, when anti-dazzle is active does it mean you never have to toggle between high and low beams?

Staszek · 03-16-2016, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HansRobert

I should have said "If I get it coded". In other words, when anti-dazzle is active does it mean you never have to toggle between high and low beams?

Yes, although you have to hit the A on the stalk to turn on the auto feature. Although that can be coded on as default as well.

alphaod · 03-16-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HansRobert

I should have said "If I get it coded". In other words, when anti-dazzle is active does it mean you never have to toggle between high and low beams?

I would not code it to default on if you have the Auto button on the stalk, since there are occasions you don't want high beams such has during fog or a snowstorm.

MattBianco · 03-16-2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HansRobert

I should have said "If I get it coded". In other words, when anti-dazzle is active does it mean you never have to toggle between high and low beams?

On mine, I hit the A button below the BC button on the controller on the left side, and it goes on Auto mode. When in Auto mode it does what Auto mode beams do plus anti-dazzle features. When not in Auto mode, it is like any other car. Otherwise the coding allows the Auto mode to do more, without affecting the manual operation of beams.

HansRobert · 03-16-2016, 11:53 AM

Great! Now all I have to do is find someone who is willing to code it for me.

Thanks for the input!

TallTrees · 03-16-2016, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HansRobert

Great! Now all I have to do is find someone who is willing to code it for me.

Thanks for the input!

I believe these guys can do it remotely for you

http://www.codemycar.com/

birdcatcher · 03-18-2016, 12:09 PM

I did a random research on this when i wanted to get auxiliary lights for my jeep wrangler rubicon!
I found out -
1. The Led's cannot match the long range distance/ performance of the Xenons, HID's
2. All high performance auxiliary lamps used in rally's, racing are HID's/ Xenons. Check out Light Force 240 HID's!
3. The LED's look aesthetically better due to the color! However, research shows that lights with a slight yellow tinge (between 4500-5000K) are better w.r.t. performance!
So, if you want performance, long distance performance, go with stock X5 F15 lights, if you drive only in the city (not on highways at 60+ mph) and want the light's to look good to oncoming traffic, and make their (oncoming traffic's) life easier, upgrade to LED

MrTookies · 03-18-2016, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MattBianco

I have LEDs. It has better low beam, worse high beam compared to the Xenon that was on a dealer loaner. The low beam advantage is pronounced if your code anti dazzle.

The high beams on the LED are inferior to my Merc bi xenon. The BMW xenons are close to Merc in high beam.

The front turn signal in the LED looks better in my opinion.

Is it worth it? Not sure. But it has aesthetic advantages and anti dazzle, and poorer high beams.

Its interesting that your take on the high beam is like that...I think that my 3series has worse high beam with the bi-xenon then with the LED high beam...but I guess everybody has a different take on that...

Maybe this is something that has nothing to do with the headlights but i feel like I get less bugs with the X5 then I do with the 3series...

HansRobert · 03-21-2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Talltress

I believe these guys can do it remotely for you

http://www.codemycar.com/

Does coding affect the BMW warranty in any way?

alphaod · 03-21-2016, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HansRobert

Does coding affect the BMW warranty in any way?

As long as you don't make changes to the part that affects the engine.

Staszek · 03-21-2016, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HansRobert

Does coding affect the BMW warranty in any way?

Its possible if your headlight was to break for some reason and they found out it was coded they could refuse to cover it under warranty. They cannot deny another part though because you coded the headlight.

Velocifero · 11-29-2016, 07:56 AM

I didn't want to create a separate thread for this question: Can anyone tell me why BMW opted not to use projectors for the LED package instead of the housing reflectors? Wouldn't projectors amplify and distribute the light more effectively as with modern HIDs? I know Acura, Lexus, and possibly Audi use projectors with their LED headlights.

TallTrees · 11-29-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Velocifero

I didn't want to create a separate thread for this question: Can anyone tell me why BMW opted not to use projectors for the LED package instead of the housing reflectors? Wouldn't projectors amplify and distribute the light more effectively as with modern HIDs? I know Acura, Lexus, and possibly Audi use projectors with their LED headlights.

BMW engineers aren't followers?

The LED's work great especially with the anti-dazzle. I've never had better lighting than this on any previous vehicle.

P1 · 11-29-2016, 10:39 AM

The X5 without the LED headlights looks quite plain in my book. After the M Sport package, it was the second "must have" on my list. Completely transforms the front end, and make it that much more aggressive.

F15GorDe · 11-29-2016, 01:11 PM

I recently had the HBA coding done for my LED lighting package. There is a noticeable difference when this feature is enabled. For me the largest improvement is the way more of what is in front of you is illuminated. Overtaking vehicles allows you to really see the motors working to keep the hotspot of the beam out of the drivers view as you roll on by.

I'm very pleased that I now realize all of the benefit of this expensive option. It's really a shame that the USDOT does not see fit to encourage the use of a technology that is widely accepted everywhere else in the world.

HZX540e · 11-29-2016, 05:50 PM

Somewhat related: I have the xenon lights. Only one of the eyes on both sides light up low/high beam what's the other eye for? I've seen pictures of cars with LED where both eyes light up, I guess when using the high beam, which begs the question what did BMW leave it blank for the xenon?

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HansRobert First Lieutenant 71 Rep 315 Posts Drives: 2016 X5 xDrive 40e Join Date: May 2014 Location: South Central PA iTrader: (0)	As stated I've ordered the Lighting Package. Should I get it "coded" to make the anti-dazzle active does that negate the need for switching (either automatically or manually) between high beams and low beams?
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HansRobert First Lieutenant 71 Rep 315 Posts Drives: 2016 X5 xDrive 40e Join Date: May 2014 Location: South Central PA iTrader: (0)	Great! Now all I have to do is find someone who is willing to code it for me. Thanks for the input!
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birdcatcher Private First Class 12 Rep 106 Posts Drives: '13 X5 35ixDrive E70 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: NVA iTrader: (0)	I did a random research on this when i wanted to get auxiliary lights for my jeep wrangler rubicon! I found out - 1. The Led's cannot match the long range distance/ performance of the Xenons, HID's 2. All high performance auxiliary lamps used in rally's, racing are HID's/ Xenons. Check out Light Force 240 HID's! 3. The LED's look aesthetically better due to the color! However, research shows that lights with a slight yellow tinge (between 4500-5000K) are better w.r.t. performance! So, if you want performance, long distance performance, go with stock X5 F15 lights, if you drive only in the city (not on highways at 60+ mph) and want the light's to look good to oncoming traffic, and make their (oncoming traffic's) life easier, upgrade to LED __________________ Helix SDM125, Helix V-Eight DSP, Match, JL HD900/5, OEM L7 speakers, Morel SC 10 (in JL Stealth box) Turbo Lag - Giving the NA guys just 1 extra second of false hope...
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P1 Lieutenant General 11566 Rep 11,135 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	The X5 without the LED headlights looks quite plain in my book. After the M Sport package, it was the second "must have" on my list. Completely transforms the front end, and make it that much more aggressive.
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F15GorDe Well versed in the care and feeding of BMWs 261 Rep 733 Posts Drives: F15d, F10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	I recently had the HBA coding done for my LED lighting package. There is a noticeable difference when this feature is enabled. For me the largest improvement is the way more of what is in front of you is illuminated. Overtaking vehicles allows you to really see the motors working to keep the hotspot of the beam out of the drivers view as you roll on by. I'm very pleased that I now realize all of the benefit of this expensive option. It's really a shame that the USDOT does not see fit to encourage the use of a technology that is widely accepted everywhere else in the world. __________________ B&O, parking assistant, executive package, 3rd row seats and the manual rear shades are the ONLY items we didn't order. Having everything else makes our F15d a NICE ride.
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