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      08-17-2015, 03:13 PM   #1
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Interesting Car & Diver X5M instrumented test review

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I haven't seen anyone post this yet, so here it is. Car & Driver posted this review. It's filled with some contempt, and a bit of disdain, but also has some interesting test numbers. They managed 0-60mph in 3.8 seconds, and a quarter mile in 12.3 seconds at 115mph.

Full review: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ed-test-review

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The run from zero to 60 mph consumes just 3.8 seconds and the quarter-mile flashes by in 12.3, this brain-warping BMW tripping the lights at 115 mph. The response is nearly instantaneous, with all 553 lb-ft of torque present and accounted for by 2200 rpm.

For the sake of establishing some order in this competitive set, consider that the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S performed the same tasks in 4.1 and 12.5 seconds, the Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG in 4.2 and 12.6. By those measures, the X5 M is the king of the luxury-SUV drag strip. But change is constant, and both of those makers already are ushering more-powerful models into their lineups: Porsche’s 570-hp 2016 Cayenne Turbo S hit the streets earlier this year, and the 577-hp Mercedes-AMG GLE63 S coupe isn’t far behind (although the latter is more a competitor for the X6 M).

On the skidpad, the X5 M again defied expectations, posting 0.96 g, a lateral-acceleration number that puts it in league with genuine sports cars. Braking also wowed, with the stop from 70 mph requiring just 152 feet. (For the record, the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S recorded 0.90 g on the skidpad and required 156 feet to stop from 70 mph.)

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      08-17-2015, 03:27 PM   #2
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Icing on the cake that we made the right choice. 12.3 on the quarter is ridiculously fast for any respectable sport car, let alone an SUV. I'm amazed that it corners better, accelerates faster, and stops quicker than the lighter Cayenne Turbo S.

I have to take my X5M to the drag strip soon. I'll pair it with RaceChip for before/after run with review as time permits.
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      08-17-2015, 06:48 PM   #3
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Icing on the cake that we made the right choice. 12.3 on the quarter is ridiculously fast for any respectable sport car, let alone an SUV. I'm amazed that it corners better, accelerates faster, and stops quicker than the lighter Cayenne Turbo S.

I have to take my X5M to the drag strip soon. I'll pair it with RaceChip for before/after run with review as time permits.
You're going to beat the 12.3 w/ RaceChip
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      08-17-2015, 06:50 PM   #4
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Yes, certainly a great choice to make.

What a joy to get behind the wheel everyday.
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      08-17-2015, 07:21 PM   #5
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... Car & Driver posted this review. It's filled with some contempt, and a bit of distain (sic), ...
AKA "internet snark." De rigueur for any blog aspiring to hipness.
Because snark generates more clicks and links.
And web traffic is everything.
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Good article! 0-60 time of 3.8 and a 1/4 mile time of 12.3...very Mpressive! I need to take mine to the drag strip!
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      08-17-2015, 07:46 PM   #7
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Yup! I saw this article today, pretty insane. Now if only they could put that motor in the M4 to make a modern version of the M3 GTR
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That is a badass machine. It's about the only thing I'd consider swapping for my M5.
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Dont mean to offend the drag strip folks, but the most stupendous figure listed there is 0.96g on a skid pad.

Holy crap nearly 1g grip in an SUV wow
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That is amazing! I just got back from Spartanburg where I did a one day private M instruction and realize I should have asked to also drive the X5M on the track. I spaced out not thinking of it. I did get to drive the M3/M4/M235 and the i8. Maybe that was why I spaced. Still, would have loved to pushed the X5M around the track a bit.

I was going to hold onto my '12 X5M but now I'm a lot more tempted to upgrade. My dealer has one in stock right now. Maybe friday try to test drive it.

BTW, let's not forget the HUGE price differential between an X5M loaded and even a fairly modestly equipped Cayenne Turbo S. The Cayenne has to be at least 50k to 100k more.
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BMW never had problems with posting numbers. I don't doubt what BMW can do with a turbo to a monster engine. Now more than ever, I'm interested how it feels because that's the problem with BMW's of today - the lack of feel.
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I have an M4 and love it. My wife is not into cars but wants an X5 with leather like my car.

"Ok sweetie looks like an X5M is what you will need!"

But her car will be faster than mine from the line. Wow.
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Icing on the cake that we made the right choice. 12.3 on the quarter is ridiculously fast for any respectable sport car, let alone an SUV. I'm amazed that it corners better, accelerates faster, and stops quicker than the lighter Cayenne Turbo S.

I have to take my X5M to the drag strip soon. I'll pair it with RaceChip for before/after run with review as time permits.
You're going to beat the 12.3 w/ RaceChip
Lol. Should be in the 11s.
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I have an M4 and love it. My wife is not into cars but wants an X5 with leather like my car.

"Ok sweetie looks like an X5M is what you will need!"

But her car will be faster than mine from the line. Wow.
If she balks at the price , make sure you let her know you wanted to make sure that hers has the same seats as the ones in your car... Those other x5s meh...
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BMW never had problems with posting numbers. I don't doubt what BMW can do with a turbo to a monster engine. Now more than ever, I'm interested how it feels because that's the problem with BMW's of today - the lack of feel.
But that's not a problem with BMW's only.
It's a problem with the tech, everything becomes electric and feels more distant, this goes for pretty much all brands imo.
But it's an early stage for electric steering, it will improve, as it has.
But likely, it will not give the driver the same sensations as the old power steering.
But that too wasn't ideal early on.
As for the X5M, it's a beast!
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Wow what a beast, almost 1 G lateral acceleration?!

I never believed that the X5M outperformed the Cayenne Turbo S, but it does outperform it.

Now just fix the steering, BMW, and you got yourself a monster.
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BMW never had problems with posting numbers. I don't doubt what BMW can do with a turbo to a monster engine. Now more than ever, I'm interested how it feels because that's the problem with BMW's of today - the lack of feel.
But that's not a problem with BMW's only.
It's a problem with the tech, everything becomes electric and feels more distant, this goes for pretty much all brands imo.
But it's an early stage for electric steering, it will improve, as it has.
But likely, it will not give the driver the same sensations as the old power steering.
But that too wasn't ideal early on.
As for the X5M, it's a beast!
Electric steering is getting there.

Porsche appears to have it well sorted in a lightweight car like the cayman/bolster which gets fantastic reviews for its steering and handling.

The precision is there based on reviews just not as much feedback. Agree with you. It will continue to improve as engineers tweak algorithms.
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The steering in the F85 X5 M was my biggest hesitation in placing an order. I was able to see the interior of the F85/F86 at an auto show, so I knew what to expect there, albeit not in the colors I chose. I was never able to test drive the vehicle before ordering, and taking delivery at the Performance Center.

I was incredibly pleased with the steering feel of this vehicle when I first drove it. While it doesn't have as intense of a feedback as the hydraulic system in my previous BMWs, it is a really pleasant drive, with enough feedback, accuracy/precision, and weight (I drive mine in sport mode for steering) to be satisfying. Can it be improved upon, sure, but what about vehicles, given enough time, can't be improved upon?
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Lol this isn't an SUV it's a tall car that's no more of an SUV than a Lexus RX 350.

It's going to take this thing 3.8 hours to get to 100kph in sand while the real luxury SUV's such as the Mercs, Porsches and Range Rovers cruise past it with ease.

If the X5M is so great how come the X6M can't even beat a Range Sport SVR or cayenne turbo S on the ring? BMw should stick to making cars. Oh wait the X5 and X6 ARE high riding sedans!
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The cayenne turbo S is the fastest SUV around the ring and unless these results were all done same day same conditions I don't see much validity to them. They are so close I'd say the turbo S still is the king as it always has been.
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