[firedown31]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

LOL it's like you haven't paid a lick of attention to the industry. Toyota, Honda, Nissan are down double digits in September as the industry is starting to collapse.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...o-sales-update

Subaru's streak of 93 straight months of increased sales finally ended.

https://www.autonews.com/sales/subar...ends-93-months

You are right about one thing. They are not good numbers. They are great numbers.

Odd that you pick September sales for Honda. Here's the last 3 months.

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-co...onthly-records
August sales Month to Month +17.6% YTD to YTD +1.7%

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-co...-sales-results
September sales Month to Month -14.1% YTD to YTD -0.1%

https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-co...-way-for-acura
October sales Month to Month +7.6% YTD to YTD +0.6%


Yes they bombed in September, but that was coming off their best month ever. Month over month is a terrible way to look at how a car company is doing sales wise. You have no idea what was going on a year ago; major recalls, market crash, low supply. Look at everyone here defending BMW models saying oh that one had a recall so no sales were allowed. Year to date is a much better comparison. And I'll give you BMW is ahead there.

Also a brand having almost 8 years of increases, then a one month drop, is a sign the industry is collapsing? The SEDAN industry is collapsing, even BMW is a victim of that. Excluding the X1 and X2 (which I don't consider "passenger cars") BMW sedans are down -20.4% October 2018 vs October 2019. Honda cars only dropped -1.5% for those same 2 months.