[tranquility]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Counterpoint.

My fleet spans late 90s to 2021. I have 2 vehicles with problems right now that are in the shop or need to be. Well, 3 but the 92 is my.fault and I should have fixed it a year ago. But the 2 I was talking about are my 2 newest, a 2019 that's in for a transmission rebuild (under warranty) after going in for a camshaft phaser replacement (under warranty), and my 2021 that's going to go in for a "chassis control" issue that's gonna be who knows what.

My 09 and 2012 vehicles never have any problems. The 09 has had a good bit of upkeep during my ownership to be fair, but it doesn't let me down. The 2012 is a low mile Corvette and it's not hardly had any issues ever. It's a tank but it doesn't get driven a ton due to it being slightly less practical.

All this to say, peak reliability for vehicles was the early to late 00s. After that point emissions and efficiency controls forced automakers into designs that were not as robust, and not as reliable. They also are modern enough to have overall decent safety, features, and drivability. I can understand sticking to that era, and frankly, right now I would go trade my 2021 X5 in for the right vehicle from the mid to late 00s.

There's no counterpoint though as I'm just referring to performance. The saying "they don't make them like they used to" sometimes applies. I can imagine the myriad of prbs now that cars seem more like computers. I used to have electrical gremlins but they have stopped ages ago (knock wood) and they are nothing compared to these moving ipads, so I shudder to think of vehicles now w way more complicated electronics.