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Are these any worse than the MB with their head bolts on M156 or bore scoring on M157 or the V8s in the Turbo Cannes? IMHO no manufacture really makes anything reliable that will last 150K mile nowadays without some work. Even Toyota is struggling to live up to their hype today.


With BMW, it's plan is to have the car last the warranty/federal required KM and that's it. If it could programs the cars to fall apart after said period, they probably would, or force you to pay a subscription.


As redneck said, if you maintain them properly, they will last. The problems is that as some of us get these 2nd hand. Their maintenance has only been to BMW spec, and because of that. The engines fate is already sealed.

Granted, the forum is a minor example of how these cars are in the wild. But almost everyone here has ether A) had annoying/expensive faults or B) has had to do some serious preventative maintenance so these things don't grenade. Just because it got fixed under CPO or 3rd party warranty does not mean it didn't happen. The reality is that these things were expensive new, and are expensive to fix if they brake. Are MB, Porsche, Audi any more reliable? Nope. At least the F85 will be more reliable than the current Range Rover Line-up and wont catch fire.


So get one, have fun enjoy the hell out of it, but do start a rainy fund.