06-28-2023, 06:06 PM | #155 |
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Kids. That changes the perspective.
I’m at a point in life where I prioritize family comfort over some Nurburgring lap times and Mlite models do just fine. I’m crossing shopping X7M60i and E63s wagon. This M5 wagon would be a good mix to add if it doesn’t ride like an arse. |
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06-28-2023, 07:32 PM | #156 |
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I think this will define the words: "Attack Wagon"
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06-28-2023, 09:40 PM | #158 |
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I don’t disagree but I think we can assume that bmw wouldn’t allow the M3 to be faster than the M5. It would be bad for marketing and their class. It doesn’t usually happen and I doubt they’ll start now but we shall see.
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06-28-2023, 09:45 PM | #159 |
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I think it will be fair compare it to next RS6. New one should come out as 2025 or 26 model year.
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06-28-2023, 11:01 PM | #161 |
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I went from an F80 to the RS6 because kids got bigger and the utility was better. V8TT also helped but certainly the ability to get something that was never available in NA really pushed me over.
The M5 sedan just wasn’t compelling enough. I wish the Touring was available a year ago, that would have been a fun comparison. I’m quite keen to see the full release. I hope it doesn’t have the giant nostrils. |
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06-30-2023, 06:30 PM | #163 |
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Good grief, I hope you’re wrong lol. That price point would make my F90 CS purchase (future) way easier to digest
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06-30-2023, 07:48 PM | #164 |
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I hope I'm wrong, too. 125K or less would be a lot easier to justify.
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07-05-2023, 01:59 PM | #166 |
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I admit I'm late to this thread, but a couple of thoughts after I read through it:
1. Wordwide (and especially in central europe) The M5 Touring would not be a niche, ultra-rare product; M3 Touring demand is supposed to be very high and the regular 5er Touring outsells the 5er Sedan by quite a lot in Germany. 2. I think the fact earlier Tourings did not come to the US also has a lot to do with BMWNA and the desire to make the most out of the Spartanburg plant and SUVs; nowadays, SUVs are so ubiquitous that a 3er/5er Touring is no longer a threat. 3. I would be surprised if only the M5 Touring makes it over to the US, but who knows, maybe - as it is a PHEV and very heavy anyway, they probably don't need to think about 50:50 weight distribution and putting the battery in the trunk, which was a big problem with the G81 (M3 Touring). 4. Normally, the Tourings are 1-2k more expensive than the sedans - however, if only the M5 Touring is coming stateside and it needs to get crash-tested/homologated on its own, that might mean some heavier markup... |
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07-07-2023, 07:59 PM | #168 |
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Station wagons look better in a wide body but you are absolutely right American loves their SUV. Let’s see what happen
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07-08-2023, 09:53 PM | #170 |
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My 2016 BMW X5M (F85), that I leased new and then purchased off lease, currently has 109,500 miles on it and continues to run and drive just fine, providing spirited performance along with large luggage/cargo capacity practicality, along with desirable all-wheel drive. The only real drawbacks for me is it’s poor gas mileage and rather stiff ride in Comfort Mode sertings, which I knew when I selected this vehicle. I expect that with continued proactive regular maintenance it will give me 80,000+ additional miles, if I decide to keep it for 2-3 more years. While I am in no hurry to replace it since it has served us well as primarily our long-distance, road trip / vacation vehicle, I am interested in eventually finding something new that appeals to me as much as this SUV still does. As a life-long automobile enthusiast, I want my vehicle(s) to really excite me and remind me how much I appreciate that vehicle when I am driving it. For mostly personal aesthetic reasons, I am not really enamored with the current mid-cycle face lifted 2024 BMW X5M and the BMW XM is just too quirky for my taste. It seems as if the current crop of BMW designers are more interested in concocting various interior light shows than sculpting a vehicle body that most people find attractive. The hideous grill on the 4-Series and XM reminds me of an equally awful looking front grill of the Ford Edsel.
Yet, the appeal of a performance sport wagon, shooting brake, touring, (station wagon) vehicle has been growing on me, especially the current models of both the Audi RS 6 Avant and the Porsche Panamera GTS Sport Turismo. Having priced both out with the various options I would want, they are approx. $140,000 and $170,000, respectively, before taxes and fees, so if the G99 fully optioned is around $150,000 then it will be appropriately competitive with these other two contenders. Having owned two earlier Mercedes-Benz AMG models, the current AMG E63s wagon just does not do much to excite me. Also, I have never leased or purchased any vehicle at MSRP and refuse to spend $10,000 - $15,000 above MSRP to just add to a Dealer’s profit. Therefore, I plan to just sit tight and while I may put my name on a waiting list with my local BMW Dealership for the 2025 G99 M5 Touring, I will wait to see how it looks and drives, prior to committing to pull the trigger on a purchase. IMHO, until we can see and know more about the G99, both the Audi and Porsche remain in my mind as very strong contenders in this niche market. I believe that I am not alone and that others, like me, are part of a small group of buyers, at least in the U.S., who are ready to make a fresh switch from 10-15+ years of SUV vehicle ownership to a new, freshly attractively designed vehicle that compared to the X5M, would conceivable have a better ride, slightly more storage capacity, better mileage, (as a hybrid) and have a rarity factor, all contributing to a very appealing allure.
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A station wagon???
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